This is your smoking blonde, the idiocy aplenty. I'm not sure if she knows that she's hot. She's really bad at making conversation and most of my jokes go over her head. I took her out for coffee a few months back and we didn't discuss much at all. I don't think she had a good time. No laughs. Then I drove her to work and we slowly stopped talking to each other online and I haven't seen her in months.

Last time I talked to her online I said "do you want to know a secret?", she replied in the affirmative and I sent her a link to PostSecret. I thought she might find it interesting. But then she said "what does this have to do with anything?", and I replied "Nothing, you know I have a problem being serious about anything lol". It was probably one of the worst things I could have said. First: it wasn't true, second: no one wants to be the over-gregarious, never-serious, try-to-hard to be funny guy, third: there was no chance of continuing the conversation and so that was where it was left off. Maybe she didn't even understood what the website was on account of her intellect. I very well should have spilled my guts to her at that point and made my unknown intentions the "secret".

I just sent her a message tonight on the whim. I am getting involved in the pickup game and I have been sending provocative negs to many of the attractive females I am friends with - good feedback, but maybe more on that later. I didn't use a canned opener or a neg on this girl. Basically I just asked her how her Christmas was. I forgot to save the conversation, but she responded with her usual short, and seemingly uninterested tone. On the other hand, I may be confusing it, and it may just be on account of her head being empty.

What is the best way I can get across my intentions to this girl and try an f-close? I don't work well with the stupid girls. We're incompatible. But this girl is really sexy and I've known her for long enough that I could definitely f-close.

I'm not looking for a step-by-step procedure, but how would you guys open with this girl and meet up with those similar intentions. Please, with your response, give me an estimate of how many broads you've f-closed using the handbook, or if you're capable of playing your own game - even better! This will give me a valuable assessment of your credibility, and tell me if I shall take your advice with a grain of salt. I've noticed many of your approaches and opinions vary greatly.

Throw in your feedback. I'm thinking I could get quite good at this in the coming months...

Ask yourself where you are with this girl. From what I can gather you aren't getting any comfort with her. She does not hold much value in you right? So what can you do to build comfort or rapport? If she really is that ditsy and stupid shes not gonna build comfort with a guy she can't even understand.

Break in to her reality. Winning comfort can't be played by you contributing 100% of the interaction. Try and connect with her through her perspective. So you might wanna dumb down the topics of conversation on this one. "omg Oregon is a state?!?" Yes i've actually heard a girl say this before.

You never have to lie to her either. especially if you want to get anywhere with your intentions. And your intention (to fuck her) guess what? That is every guy's intention with every hot girl. Redirect that energy towards something that either gets her more attracted or more comfortable with you.

From my experience, if it's been this long and still gotten nowhere, I would go out and start fresh because I would have already lost the battle of first impressions. When you can meet a girl and display to her within 30 min that you are a guy she'd want to fuck then your in. If she doesn't get that feeling....then winning her afterwards is gonna take more and more effort.

I don't play by and real handbook just find advice here and there when I need it and learn my lessons through the field. Since I've found the community I'd say 10 or so F closes in the last 18 months. But now I'm doing the MLTRs with 3 women.

Hope this helps man. Party hard!