I can open if its just a girl sitting alone, but if its a group of girls, even if its just a girl and her friend, I am afraid I will be judged too quickly, pushed outta the group, or insulted. If i let one of those things happen, and other people see, I feel like its an automatic DLV.



....plus I have no idea how to isolate my target from the group.
You are suppose to open the whole group to make them comfortable with you, but wouldn't it be awkward/obvious just randomly asking one of them to go outside or get a drink with you away from the group?....

I was thinking the same thing earlier today..

Another thing is, it's easy to walk up to a girl, even if she's in a group, if you have some one with you, like a close friend, or a "wingman" .. But when alone, it makes things harder, and more awkward ..

If only there was a way to get that jolt of confidence, and not-caringness that you get when you have some one with you...

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You can open groups. It's all about the right mind set and believing you can do this. Although your believes are based on your own experience doesn't make them true and they are holding you back now. My advice would be to work on your inner game and I'm sure NLP could help you with that.

Of course there a chance that you get rejected the first few tries, and yes that will lower your value. But how were you planning to manage this skill without trying?
Failure is the first step to success.

Depends on how you bring it. If you already have built comfort and you're being self confident I don't think it would be awkward. I've seen others asking to following line to (one of) the friends of the target: Is it okay if I borrow *name target* for a second?


This was I had to say. I hope it was useful.

Chès

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I find the easiest way is to open anybody within the group's center (not somebody in the perimeter, but surrounded by the rest of the group in some way). If you open them with an interesting enough line, everybody else will notice and join the conversation.
I also find that openers that take longer (stories, tricks, etc.) are more effective on groups than questions. A question naturally leads into a one on one conversation, which everybody else may get bored of.

If the idea with opening straight into a story or act turns you off, try this next time instead: approach the group and poll them on a question. Something like "I'm doing a survey, who here thinks that Mustangs are douchey cars?" You can then establish a group-wide conversation and even neg your target for having a certain opinion (remember to do it playfully).

I can see where your coming from but honestly just go for it. Get an opinion opener followed up by a good routine grab there attention and focus it on the target. Then if it works you can close for a drink. But its all down to balls you seriously just need to get up stop thinking about it and walk over and just go for it you can do it

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Watch 'Keys to the VIP' and 'The Pick Up Artist'

Lots of isolating the target going on.

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I was having the same issue bro, but i dont have any problem opening groups or isolating the target and you'll unlock this problem forever if you follow these 2 beliefs

1-accept it
2-men are just ugly girls

1-you have to accept the fact that quality women go out in groups to protect them, so the sooner you accept this the sooner you start approaching groups

2-men in groups are usually just friends of th target or colleagues...you can know that by asking them "so, how do u know each other?" and 90% of the times you'll find out that they are just friends

to isolate the target just ask the group politely: "there's something about your friend I find interesting. You guys mind if I talk to her alone for just a few minutes
right over there?"

and 90% they accept and say " as long as she's ok with it"

so go approach groups isolate and let me know bro about ur success!