I'm no fan of opening in bars or clubs. I used to open quite a few times, in my MM stage. Many on the dancefloor, some in the bar before everyone was drunk. Some were succesfull, most not. I have to admit, opening is not my best part of the game. I prefer gaming at day, when girls expect less to be hit on. Guys aren't mostly drunk so most of them don't have the alcohol courage to play.
But still, I accepted that I should open many more girls in order to have more succes. I went out I saw the need of opening because otherwise I would'nt level up in the game. So I went out again with the same story repeating again.

I don't think that I didn't open much because of AA. I learned alot about inner game lately, so I had less anxiety (note that I don't (want to) game drunk because I believe that you should learn it when you're sober).
It's more because I tought it would be awkward and weird. I've told myself to don't give a shit.
So I started thinking: how should I open? Opinion opener? Direct opener? A natural opener? And which opener? I saw 2 girls standing somewhere.
I quickly forced myself to stop this useless mental masturbation, and I went for the natural opener: just smile, say hi and introduce yourself.

So I did. The 2 girls were like HB7. Not that hot. Yet they looked at me like "what the hell is he doing?" I sincerely didn't give a fuck, because I didn't care what they tought about me. They didn't even knew me, so they couldn't realy reject my whole person. I had 1 goal: that was not to have her get laid, not a kiss close, not even getting her phone number, but just to start a simple conversation. My goal was to just start a pleasant conversation, where the ball was rolling, without having to think too much. Not too much asked huh? No neediness. My goal wasn't to get them to like me.
As soon as I said the opener, they were like looking at each other like wtf? So after it, I started an opinion opener. They were not realy responsive, still like wtf?, but I tough "fuck it. I show them I don't care a fuck. If I persist confidently, let's see if they still will be aloof".

I have to say. The conversation didn't went very well. So I ejected politely telling them to have fun tonight, and went back to my friends. But still, two 7s, or maybe even 6,5, with a bitch shield that high? A tall friend of mine, used a stupid simple canned opinion opener to a blond HB8 who has been making out with her boyfriend standing on the left of her few minutes before, and he just had a good conversation with a nice girl, whose bitch shield wasn't aperently that high.

Sometimes I was just talking to a friend, I felt a few times that some girls standing next to me looked at me like they were trying to hear what I said. I opened them normaly with a smile, they turned around and left. Com'on? I can't realy see the problem.
I was dancing at the dancefloor. While my mate had opened succesfully that hb8, two horny girls who were probably their friends, dancing with each other, I noticed one of them looking at me from the corner of my eye, I took a glance, gave a small playfull assbump (I have used this non verbal opener already succesfully a few times) to her, and looked at her with a frame and look in my face saying "so you think you can handle me?" Yet, she looked at her friend like "wtf does he think he's doing?", turned around and left.

So yeah you can imagine I dislike opening. Why do they have such a bitch shield on them? Why does some other people, people who are taller and older less problems with it? Is it because I'm smaller than most girls, and younger, me being 18 and then 21? How can I deal with this bitch shield? Or is it better to just accept that opening isn't for me and that I should focus on things I'm good at? I personally don't believe the latter just out of principle but I start to get my doubts.

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Oh yeah, I definitely know what you're talking about. Had the exact same situation last night, which I described earlier in my introduction. I hate that bitch shield. Later in my analysis I figured where I might have made some mistakes.

1.) I violated the 3 seconds rule. So, we made few eye-contacts before I did my opener - and that can't be a good thing.

2.) Later I saw them with 2 AM's. That might have influenced their obvious rejection, but I don't know, isn't The Game supposed to work despite AM's?

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You can't expect any opener to work 100% of the time. Sometimes even a great opener delivered perfectly will not hit because they're in a bad mood or busy or for a million other reasons. You can't let it affect you because then your state drops and the rest of your opening will suffer because you won't deliver with confidence. We've all been there.

I remember a night in new york a couple of years ago where I was in this club. I legitimately wanted to know what time the DJs I wanted to see were going to be on, so I thought that a simple straightforward opener would be to go up to groups and just ask them if there was a setlist about or what time the DJs were on. I guess people in NY just go to clubs and don't care who's playing, and nobody posts up setlists there, because I got incredibly negative reactions, looks of puzzlement, and actually active hostility at one point. I realised a while afterwards that my sets had been going so badly because after the first few bad reactions, I stopped SMILING when I opened. Remember, you have to look like you're having a great time BEFORE you open, and when you do you must smile to signal that you're friendly and not weird. If you don't, no matter what you say or do, sets will not open.

So, before you open, have a mental checklist in mind. First, make sure you're in the middle of sharing a joke or something with your friend. You guys are having fun. THEN make eye contact and force the IOI from your target, or swing around and open a set nearby, or however you want to do it. Say "excuse me" or "hey guys" or something first, to get their attention, with a smile, and deliver your opener with good strong voice tonality, confident body language and eye contact.

There are millions of sets and they're all different, don't worry if you get blown out of a few, it's the only way you'll learn, and then only way you'll find a set that locks in.

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The funny thing is: I did smile, and kept on smiling. I began my first set with: "hey guys! Are you having fun?" and then I started the opinion opener. I wasn't drunk at all.

But yes, I should go out more, and maybe even smile more. Objective: get 10 blow outs at a night.

But seeing it work for other (not particulary better players) people and not for me is kind of demotivating.

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