Hi guys

Need some advice. I am really inexperienced in the dating game.
I am about to go out on a date with a girl I met online. We had a brief chat and I thought it went poorly but she still wants to meet me.

I am an anxious kind of guy anyway but this girl makes me particually anxious.

She is in her early 30s the same as me and she has been very sucessful in business and is semi retired. She says she is down to earth likes camping and getting her hands dirty (as I do) but she also strikes me as a bit of a socialite..classy.
She is also dead hot. Me... Argh

I am just a regular kind of guy...which she knows. I dont think I have made myself out to be anything I am not.
The conversation was a lot of work on my end, had a fair few dead ends. It was almost like a job interview.. kind of like "you have me on the phone, now impress me!" although I dont think I caught her at the best time.

Basically, I am intimidated by her because
(1) She has money and I dont.
(2) she is dead hot
(3) She is obviously a go getter in life where as I have only started to get my shit together in the past couple of years. I am worried that she is going to judge me by the same obviously high standards she has for herself.

If you can give me any advice or direct me to some threads that will help me for this upcoming date I would really appreciate it

Not being an expert of women in their 30's and being an AFC from hell myself. Don't rely only on my advice. I think however it will do you great good because it's simple and I can't see how it will hurt at least. I am currently testing it out and it looks promising.

Basically, shortly before the date starts you watch this video in full screen and headphones as many times over as you feel like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IL6kx_y2vw[/youtube]

If you do it, tell me if it ridded you of the anxiety of her being so hot and awesome. If it did, you probably did good that night

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AFC from hell

I usually stick to posting in the Online Sarging, just because I do well in that area of sarging, but this post seems pretty related.

First off, no girl is better than you. You've GOT to have that attitude. Don't be a jack ass and higher than everyone, but don't let anyone be "above" you mentally. It's definitely part of the inner game that you need to have in check before you are going to do well in PUA.

This girl has money and looks... but is single...she obviously is lacking somewhere. Remember that when you go into the date. You knowing that information shows that you must be filling in some void of hers since she wants to go on a date with you (hopefully you can fill another void at the end of the date).

It's fine that you don't have money or looks, she has that covered. What she needs is a guy that doesn't treat her like she's perfect (it sounds like you think so) and instead makes HER qualify herself to him. Be funny, be interesting, but whatever you do...don't act like everything she says is amazing to you...don't respond to everything with "Wow, that's really cool."

Hmmm, ok that was actually what the ration part of my brain was saying.

More to the point, it is what I should be doing, game or no game. I have had a couple of really beautiful girlfriends before and and the headgames and bullshit soon overshadows their appearence. As for money.. thats her thing. I make more than I need on my own and besides which I am extreemly independant.

So I shouldnt be nervous.. I shouldnt even be hopeful. I am a particular barstard and have a low frustration tolerence for idiots so I will be evaluating this girl big time before kicking anything off with her.

Maybe an added bonus is that the meds I am on kill my sex drive so I wont even be trying to bed her. Not in the start anyway

One thing I could use advice on... We meet.. Hug and kiss on the cheek?
End of date.. if there are some good vibes happening, go for the kiss? If its so so still go for the kiss? Do I wait for the very end? I am figuring I will be putting her into a taxi... on the street sounds a little uncomfortable?

Also...what do you think about an open ended date. I was thinking of taking her to this kind of petting zoo...farm animals and shit.
See if I can drag it out to drinks?

Oh yeah...first date shag. If it is hotting up go for it? Or is it going to make her want to come back for more if not.. I guess is it better in the long run to wait... jesus, I sound like a chick haha

Zendog,

Few important things:

If she's single in her early 30's that's because she might be looking for that average Joe who is just always there when she needs him. Women aren't that focused on your look they way us men are on women. They do however have a biological clock ticking and ticking. You mentioned she already made a career, now it's time for a family.

Second is don't put her on a pedestal, she's a women, a human being like every human being you see. She maybe drop dead gorgeous, but she still isn't perfect.

Don't bore her with talk about your car, your house, your dog, your comics, your work, your hobbies. You see where I'm going with this? Don't talk to much about yourself, women like to talk about themselves. Keep talking at a 60/40 or 70/30 rate where she talks for either 60 or 70% of the time and you for the other 40/30%. Also first dates aren't interrogations.

Also since you are new, don't have any expectations. Don't expect to get laid, make sure you two enjoy yourselves and get that second date on.


If you want to read yourself in try David DeAngelo - Double Your Dating

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Cheers mate

Thanks man

Im sure I am being an annoying newbie with all these questions but just one more.
Silence's - There was quite a few on the phone ond it was me making the effort to fill them. I actually almost think she did this intentionally to sound me out.

Heading up to the date.. How do I handle this?