When I go out to approach, I'm great at eye contact. I can always make others be the first to look away. In case you're a total newbie, I'm talking about making a woman look away first to convey dominance and create sexual tension.

Here's the problem. Sometimes when I'm out and about with no intention of approaching women, because I'm not in the mood or having other things going on, I'll accidentally make eye contact with a totally hot chick that came out of nowhere.

it's like "Woaw. Completely unexpected."

And when this surprise happens, I have a tendency to only hold the eye contact for like 3 seconds before I look off to the side (but for some reason I can always make guys be the first to look away, even if the eye contact is unexpected).

And so I don't approach this hot chick because I feel like I lost the eye contact game.

Anyone else have this problem?

Hey there. I also noted this eye contact game, both to females and males and thought that it has to do with showing dominance. But I hadn't found any information about it anywhere in PU. Is there more information in a book about it and tips how to master not looking away first?

I can't contribute because I always think everything is lost when you first look away from a girl. But my problem is more with men. When I see one looking away first it feels like just winning a fight against him, but especially with sunglasses-wearer I get intimidated and 'dominated'.

check out some NLP stuff. but as far as eye contact, if u and someone is locking eyes and holding it for a minute, just give a smile and say hey..or walk up to them, maintaining the eye contact and open..see where it goes, u have nothing to loose so y not take the shot

That's exactly where I'm coming from. But my question is. . . IS it really game over? Or did the fact I looked for three solid seconds before looking casually off to the side give a "he's probably dominant, but I'm not quite sure" thought to the back of the woman's mind?

This question has been bothering me for a while. Even if I end up hating the answer, I still want the answer.

A question that I've been pondering is does holding eye contact make me dominant or does it telegraph interest? I also wonder if staring someone out is just creepy..

That's a good question. Eye contact is pretty crucial to me because it's a clear sign of flirting between two individuals. Yes, maintaining contact does establish dominance.
Remember how as children, some of us would have staring contests with another person to see who could last the longest? The first person to blink would be the loser and be considered "inferior" to the winner. However, TOO much eye contact will start to creep some people out. That's why whenever I hold eye contact with someone, as soon as they look away, I look away too. Then when they look back at me, I look back too.
Telegraphing interest while maintaining eye contact is simple. Flash a genuine smile here and there and you're golden. I don't think everything is "lost" if you look away from a girl. Everything is lost if you don't have the guts to look at her again!
As for establishing dominance over other men, I used to have that problem too. When I was working on eye contact with other people, I had difficulty looking at other men in the eyes. But as time passed and the more I did it, I realize how incredibly easy it was and now most men I pass by look away before I do. Here's a little cheat I used to do when I was having trouble, maybe it'll help you.

Instead of looking in the other person's eyes, look at the spot in between their eyes! It makes you look like you're staring that person down They'll be looking away in no time after you do that for a good minute or so haha.