hi dear PUA's. yesterday I went on sarging with a friend, he invited me to a party of an old friend he knew. on the party, I just saw this cute blonde HB8. she had a Professional Camera, so I took the oportunity and tried a situational Opener, this is how conversation went:

in the set there were 2 guys, two girls and the blonde HB8.

I aproached from the right side of her and touched very sutile from her arm (I tought that was bad since she turned around to the oposite side searching for someone untill she turned arround 180 and found me, so It looked like If I just aproached from the back :S).

then conversation started:

me: "hey are you a photographer or something"(pointing to the camera)
she: "oh no, this camera is from my causin' (the birthday boy of the party),
he asked me to take some picks of all"
me: "ooh, got It, so he is the photographer then, It just happens Im a photographer too, and tought we shared same intrest"
she: "oh ok" (looked at me then looked at the set)

a girl in the set interrupted us looking at me asking me to dance while she was, so I danced trying to get warm in the set, then looked back at the HB8.

me: "so you'r natural blond or you painted it."
she: "yes, its real but I painted also"

then I made some other kindda questions and openended statements, but all I got from her were: "yes", "no", "same", "ok".

then she just saw someone out of the set and walked away :S.

what did it went wrong?

Possibly your body language or your level of confidence was off.

You also failed to give her a compliment like "I love your hair" or "Your outfit is really nice" or "You have a very cute smile". You also failed to make the conversation FUN. You didn't make her laugh, you didn't tease her, and you didn't challenge her. NO FUN!

Girls (especially hot ones) know EXACTLY what you are trying to do when you start a conversation with them. They know you are attracted and testing the waters. Why else would you be talking to them?

So when you fail to take charge of the situation and excite them or challenge them... most girls assume you are another AFC and lose interest.

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Well first of all you went over and touched your target on the arm without any attraction being built, well without anything being built in fact.

Then you spoke directly to your target when you should have approached the whole group

The target should be ignored and neged a couple of times while you speak to the group.

You used a situational opener which is always bad as it goes nowhere (I was bored reading it)

The girl that asked you to dance was holding up a hoop and you jumped through it by dancing. You could have said “Hey you have to earn a dance with me I don’t just dance with anybody” (I personally would avoid dancing all together). This could have been an IOI (although I doubt it) or could have been a way to get you away from annoying her friend. Can't tell without being there.

While doing all this I can pretty much guarantee you was leaning into the group and giving off needy body language.

So you pretty much did everything wrong starting from the beginning.

Good luck next time, it’s a learning process.

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Sorry Leo-Jed I might have to respectfully disagree. My reasoning is an opener has to only do one thing - open. It did. Once opened you can stack forward to a more interesting topic in order to hook the set.

Also I noticed there wasn't a time constraint used.

Astonish

Agree.

i think u lot are forgettin something ...... yeah he should hav used a time constaint and also engaged the group ....... but what your forgetting is ..... we dnt knw if he's a 2 outa 10 or 6 ...... the bigger the difference between hm n target ...... the more likely he would hav 2 open with a neg ...... u undastand wat am sayin?

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not really.. i don't understand the "we don't knw if he's a 2 outa 10" thing could u explain it some more??

1st wat u do is u rate urself outa 10 realistically ....... like i would say am a 6 outa 10 ..... on a gud day that is ....... then you rate the gyal ...... like is she a 8 , 6 or 4 ? nw the trick is if some1s higher then you ...... then you probably would hav to neg her at sum point .... to bring her down towards you but at the same time you demonstrate higher value ...... so in my case if i shw DHV i mite go up a level in her eyes ...... and by neggin am bringin her down .... negs can b cheeky comments ..... look at it as a simple equation ....... a HB 10 isn't gna b interested in a 1 but if you bring her down and you go up ..... lets say u both meet at 5 then u gt a much bta chance of closing then b4.... its like wat u lack in looks .... you make up by DHV , positive / alpha male attitude ...... confidence and body language ...... u nva neg a girl who's lower then you cuz she already thinks your outa her league ..... plus the hotter the chik .... the more likely she has mre confidence ........

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MGL

oohh ok i got it!!

i knew how to rank girls but didn't do it with myself that's why i didn't understand ur other post.. tnx for explaining it!!

and yeah we didn't metioned that in the first posts.. interesting

i aint no expert but i knw the basics ......... o yeah dnt eva negg with a serious face or bout girls weight .......... lol or bout make up they get pissd of very easy lol am speaking from experience

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MGL