So I got a great routine from a natural I'm friends with. I've posted his version of the handshake-kino opener already. But I tried out an alternate version of it tonight with pretty good results. It was purely experimental since I was with friends who know my girlfriend, but I held multiple sets' fascination with this opener and could direct the convo any way I wanted.

Esperanto: Hey, so my friends and I have been debating this, I have this theory I want to test out to see if it works. Extend your hand like you want to shake my hand.

Target: [Extends her hand with her thumb sticking straight up, like a karate chop].

Esperanto: See, I was right. Girls keep their thumbs up before the handshake. Guys come in hard and grab the hand immediately [grab her hand firmly], then a girl adapts to his handshake [fold her thumb over your hand gently] and is submissive to him. Guys have been taught by society to offer a firm handshake. Girls just follow along and are the submissive ones. It'd actually be weird if you met a girl with a firm handshake. Wouldn't it?

Target: Thats totally true! Thats how I shake hands...

Take the convo to another place from there. Speak to the whole group about this phenomena. I just field tested it on 3 sets with good results. The opener was smooth and the women were intrigued. Unfortunately, I was with non-PUA friends so I could not continue. But it did work, and I will continue to develop it as an opener. Use it, subdue it, screw it, gentlemen.

-Esperanto

I'm sure it will work a lot of the time, but you have to be careful with stuff like that because you're gonna meet a fair amount of women that don't shake hands like girls. I personally find it a turn off when a girl goes all limp wristed on me (not that I want her to have a firmer grip than mine, but limp wrists just give me the wiggins).

not bad, but its got alot of faults, like Rye Lee said not all girls shake like that... but none the less its an opener.

You guys are right about not all girls shaking this way, but I learned something when I field tested this opener.

When you tell the girl to extend her hand for a handshake, have your hand out in the karate chop as if you are giving her an example of what to do. She will mimic you without knowing it, then immediately drop your hand and go into the routine. She will be unaware that she copied you and will think thats how she shakes hands.

Here's something I learned fast when I moved here. Small town girls have THE firmest handshakes. Theory wouldn't work where I live

well i'm sure there's a way to save the opener if they don't follow the theory

create some sort of neg about how they aren't like other girls, and vary the harshness according to their rating on the scale