I am having trouble opening this younger girl who lives in my neighbourhood. Not gross younger, but younger. Still in high school younger. I just turned 23 so I don't think that's weird yet.

She just seemed to pop up out of nowhere about six months ago and is just the cutest. I see her at the bus stop fairly often but I never think I have enough time before the bus comes or just think she'll think I'm creepy. I lose confidence.

When I see her at the bus stop it's usually around 7:15am so I wanted to try:
"Can I ask you something? What school do you go to that makes you come in so early?" all in a semi-serious tone.
How's that for an opener?

I also want to try my new all-purpose opener:
(in a serious way) "Can I ask you a question? I hope it's not too personal for me to be asking but...how do you get your hair so shiny? I condition and use shampoo with fruit oils but I keep getting dry hair. How do you do it?"

Today we were actually on the bus coming home together and after getting off (the bus, haha) she was walking behind me. I wanted to turn and joke "Are you following me?" but I thought it would be too confrontational.

Then there is always: "Hi, I'm MCAN. What's your name?" in a friendly manner. I could carry on from there. The direct approach is good.

I've read that high school girls have a different mindset. They are still status based and are attracted to confidence since most guys at school are sweaty and nervous. Can anyone confirm?

Anyone got any ideas or tips? I would appreciate suggestions.

Thanks guys.

I'm not a master but I do go to 'highschool' and know a few things.

For an opener, just go with pretty much anything. Anything TOO cheesy get's laughed upon (badly) in highschool, makes you the laughing stock of her next girl chat.

If it was 6 months ago, then she'd be pretty familiar with you already,
so just ask anything really.

'Hey i wanna ask you about _____'
'I haven't seen you around. Who are you?' (Make it really high-energy and fun like)

I'm still a beginner at this, but at least I'm poppin my 2 cents.

The following thing would be fun, it's cheeky, a joke and would break the ice instantly if you cancel the awkward moment STRAIGHT away.

Thing about this, you seem anxious. Don't think of the circumstances, think it through in your head if you have to, the start, the approach then BAM. Don't let fear kick in and finish your imagination with bad thoughts.

Yeah I really am putting her up on a pedestal and I don't like it. My best results have always come from diving right in and I gotta do just that.

Since you're in high school, do you have any insights into teenage girl psychology?
I know, it's a heavy topic.

I wouldn't ask her what high school she goes to, then you got chris hanson coming in and telling you to take a seat

I would be like "Why do schools make you wake up so early?!"

dude what grade cause shes a minimum of 5 years younger than you it would be

really weird if anything more than that but remember high school girls love to go

around bragging about the older boyfriend so play it cool go up to her be like yo can

you help me with something i need to get a girls opinion on something tell her a story

use the opionion opener it breaks the ice then shel be putty

Asking whether you can ask here something is not good anywhere. It's an obvious DLV. You're older than her, more mature and I believe high school girls are in to older guys. Demonstrate that you are and acheive a higher value than her.

Dont be that 23 year old guy dating high school girls, seriously, it happends at my school and it's so fucken sad. And it's very hard to get a girl. When her boy friend has an apartment in the city and has his own car.


Your 23, i'm presurming she's 16 - 18 (we'll i hope so) There's plenty of girls in and around your age in your neighborhood.

Yeah I see the social and maybe even ethical dilemma.
But to answer to: There really are none. It's pretty much a retirement community. Not literally, just everyone is old/empty nesters. It's only in the last couple years that younger couples have moved in but the kids they've brought with them are toddlers and that's obviously sickening to make a move on them.

lol, what you doing there then :S

We'll dosent mean just your neighborhood, there's still ones next to you and around you. The best way to meet people is to take public transport, i take the tram to school and meet so many people because they always take the tram too. It's great. You will meet so many more people using public transport then drivving a car.