Alright so i attend a small college in upper Michigan and there are hot girls everywhere. The pick up material that is taught just doesn't seem to work in college. When i'm at parties and stuff i don't know what to say or where to go after i said my opener. What are some things i can say or do to college girls to start improving my game?

Well, what kind of stuff are you doing? What you should do is post some field reports describing what you have done, the whole scenerio from material (open, dhv stories, kino, time constraints and so on) to how you reacted, what was your body language like, how was your confidence and energy level. If you post those and link them to this thread, i will check out what you have going on.

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What a dick! Right!?!

alright i'll try to describe a typical firday night. I try to find a party that has people i know at it and ask some of my buddies if they wanna go too. after we agree we go and start meeting people at the party like the hosts, or some people we know. after that it seems like me and my friends all stick together and talk or one of us start to play a drinking game. When i do talk to a girl i'm usually just nice so it doesn't help me out. i feel i'm a pretty good looking guy so sometimes the girls come to me but i'm not sure how to escalate that into something more than just being attracted to each other. i guess i'm just not sure what to say. i feel that i need to start just having fun on my own terms and not giving a shit what other people think and just do what i want to do but idk if that will improve my chances with girls...

You have to get in the right mindset. Be confident, funny, fun, and a little cocky. tease her and throw some negs. Show her why you are valuable through stories bar tricks magic tricks or whatever and make her qualify herself.

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You have to play a revised version of the game in college. The guiding principles are the same but what you actually do and say tends to be different. At this stage in their lives college girls are being hit on the most that they will ever be. So the direct openers and whatnot are pretty useless unless you have a super strong frame. The most important thing above all else is social proof. Join clubs, organizations and especially a fraternity if you can. Being part of these things makes you able to walk into a party, have people shoving past others to say hello, and make the girls that don't know you, want to. Then when you have opened, just do c/f with light kino, try to isolate if possible, attempt to k-close, and always keep a variety of drink in your room, because it never fails that when your walking a girl home and she says "I dont know if I want to go out still or not" that she will take your offer of grabbing some drinks at your place.

To help, here's a typical night for me:
I enter the party slightly after it started, usually I know about 60% of the people there and am greeted with people shouting my name as I walk in - I raise my hands to the ceiling and give a "what up, what up" to the party. I work around the party properly greeting my friends and seeing how they are doing. If they are with anyone of interest, I make sure to say hello to them as well. Then I will find whoever has the most targets around him, and go start to have a conversation with him. Eventually it will feel natural that you and the girls around you are jumping into each others conversation with the mutual friend you both share. Once this occurs, shift attention to chatting up said girls. Invite her to play games, neg her, whatever seems natural at the time. If she says something I dont agree with I will playfully ice her out and say something along the lines of "I'm sorry but I cant talk to you anymore" and push her away - she comes back, and I continue conversation. the rest of the night is kino, attempted isolation, k-close, #-close. If all goes well, I'll offer to walk her home. If anyway along the lines she makes reference to not wanting to go home, offer to grab drinks at your place. If she agrees, go back, grab drinks, offer a movie if shes not in the mood yet, curl up on the couch with her, and you can do the rest.

Most importantly don't use your friends as a crutch. If you are all standing in a circle by your selves, it shows a lack of social proof and is a DLV because you won't look like your having as much fun as the other Alphas in the party.

Hope this helps,
~GQute

Well, you are not following the game... Go study the Mystery Method, or another Guru's approach, and find material to match that. Trust me, your game will improve quick with canned material until you develope your own.

GQute is right, parties are a bit differant then the game. Most people know each other, so if you dont get the room to like you, you can mess up sets.

About not giving a shit what other people think about you, YES, this is what you need to do. But there is a right and wrong way to go about this,
First (Wrong way), is the fuck it all attitude, this tends to mess up your inner game cuz you come off negative.
The Better way is to not go out of your way to impress people, and not to let AMOGs and rejections affect you. You are too strong and happy withyourself to worry.

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What a dick! Right!?!

Jay937 the pick-up does work. You just need to make it work for you. Use the pick up method and create your own game. Be the life of the party. Every now and again I will be at a party where I know maybe one or two people and there is like 100+ ppl there. But magically by the end of the night ppl know who I am and are txting me the next day. Meet as many people as possible at the party. Introduce yourself, give hi fives to guys and gals. If you see someone you know get them to introduce you to some people. Be the life of the party and trust me word will spread and your rep will change.

If you run out of stuff to talk about. Talk about the song that just played asked her if she likes the artist, get her to sing along with you to the song. If your at a big college (unfortuatnely currently I'm at a community college) talk about the big football, basketball game. There are a bizallon things you could talk about. You can also start a convo like "Are you always this wild at parties?" or you can direct it to her friends and say "Is she always this wild at parties?" There is an endless amount of things you can talk about. Talk about the big buzz things going around on your campus. Like I said many things to talk about and trust me your smart enough to thing of something....why cuz your in college so that means you have brain and you can use it!

Main thing this is confidence College girls in general can smell fear like a Great Dane. So be confident. Don’t worry if you get rejected even the best get rejected some of the time. Even Mystery and David D. get rejected every now and again.

Mayhem & Anarchy is right be funny, fun and a little cocky.
You can challenge a hot chick to beer pong in front of everyone. She won’t back don’t and if she does just play it off like “I didn’t know you were scared to loose.”

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Sr. Cassanova

good stuff..... my only problem seems to be that i think that being rejected will lower my value to my friends and to the girls around me. its stupid i know but i just can't seem to shake it. any tips on how i can tell myself that everything will be fine even if i got rejected?

Take a look at some internal game. That's where it seems is your problem. Work on that and you'll be fine. Start saying positive things to yourself and they eventually become a part of you. Internalize this thought "If I get rejected it's her loss and some other lucky gal will have the pleasure of entertaining me tonight." Do that and if you get rejected don't worry about it and move on to the next one...sort of like that Jay-Z song. One of my favorite lines from that song is "Can't be scared to fail" One thing I've been doing recently is hopping I fail. I have this mind set because you learn more from failure. So I hope I fail and for me it takes my mind off of the pressures to succeed. Ironically, for me I end up succeeding with this mind set.

Alright I've got some hw for you Jay937. I want you to grab a sheet of paper. On it write down 5 reasons any woman would be lucky to be with you.

Before you go out read those 5. Also listen to a song or songs that are your favs and get you pumped up and feeling good.
Lastly enternalize these thoughts next time you go out:
1. "I'm curious what makes this girl tick."
2. "She's bored and my interaction with her is a welcome relif. I am her source of fun."
3. "If she doesn't answer or rejects me, she's playing with me....Rawwr....her loss!"

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Sr. Cassanova