Ok another one for you guys,

I realise I suck because I've never had any experience (just generally, not even sex). However, that seems to cause me to not have any experiences. it's like a paradox or something. Chicks can sense that your a n00b loser and don't really want to know. I mean, how the hell can you better yourself if no-one wants to try you?

My mate says try a hooker. This goes against my moral code. I think it's cheating really.

Pah, what to do?!?

If the stuff on here isn't working for you, put yourself in situations where women are drinking and start lowering your standards. Eventually something will take.

Lol, how depressing.

Hey whilst i'm here, and since I don't want to start a new topic:

Today some fine (but skanky) chick was staring holes through me on the train, and I got nervous and didn't look and pretended I didn't notice, and she was with (skanky) mates and I could sense they were laughing. Do you think that sometimes chicks do that just to test guy's responses, specifically AFC's like me, for entertainment purposes knowing the reaction they'll get???

Man... Never think again about that kind of stuff!! I mean , look at you, you are asking us if they do that for fun...Why didn't you ask her by yourself!! I mean , you should have approached her and...

You have a bad self esteem , so you're thinking , ooohhh she is looking at me ,it must be because I'm soo ugly , and she must have a bet with her friend...." heyy girls , we should bring ugly guys in a party , and the one who bring the ugliest wins!!! that's sooo funny!!"

Now , I want you to forget about all that stuff... Try, you've got nothing to lose... You're telling us that nothing works , but apparently you don't try! Just go out , and do what you should do to get girls... I mean , game is good ,but it's harder to win a girl if she already knew you and , suddenly you started gaming her.

Keep in mind that you don't suck because you never had sexual experience or whatever!! First , you suck because you think you suck. They can feel that you don't consider yourself good enough to be with them. I can see if a guy is not happy with the way he is. Stop making excuses!


Get it??

"You miss 100% of the shots you dont take"-Wayne Gretzky

Hi Sexton,

interesting dilemma and one I really do understand. I was almost the 40 year old virgin and I went through this myself. I felt as ugly as shit, had poor self esteem, fuck it I had very few male friends let alone a girl friend, life was pretty crap to say the least. I seriously looked at seeing prostitutes just to experience sex. I was too scared even for that (I lived in the UK and at the time it was illegal) I never did at that time. I kind of resigned myself to a life of loneliness and concentrated on work and my hobbies.

What is the rest of your life like?If it feels bad then I suggest strongly you concentrate on those other areas. Use time to work out what you really want to do in life. Develop yourself.Ignore sarging and pick up for a while and get the other areas of your life in order. Have patience and then when those areas are good include pick up. If you don't have a reasonably balanced and successful life outside of women then you're going to fuck yourself up.

As for seeing a prostitute I would say YES. Most people on here would say NO. Make sure you know what you want , make sure you're safe and make sure you get good value. I know what you're thinking - How pathetic having to resort to a prostitute! Only you can tell and decide if it's the right choice. I'll tell you something... recently I got so fed up with not having experienced a certain sexual act that I just thought fuck it I'll just see a whore and see what it's like. i paid my money, haggled for better value, did the business and went home feeling content. If you feel seeing a prostitute will help do it.

Regarding your specific problem with those girls. They CAN pick up on confidence and overall attitude and only from that come to conclusions about your sexual experience. When you realise that most people you meet in life couldn't give a shit either way about you than it will free you up.It's not their opinion about you that matters it's YOURS. I think you need to work on your overall lifestyle and confidence first.