Hello all, I have been looking for a while at this forum and feel like there should be a topic for good looking guys. Surely, a person who is struggling with looks must play a much harder game than a Brody Jenner looking guy. My problem is that I get IOI's maybe 70% - 80% of the time, even if it is just a smile. But my problem is approaching girls that have already accepted me based on initial attraction, so many of these openers seem useless in my situation. For instance, I walk into a bar, see an amazing girl I like, she looks at me for say 3 seconds, smiles, and slowly looks away in a "you can come talk.." manner....
I feel like going up at that point and saying "hey did you see the fight outside" or doing some silly game is only gonna retard any chance I have.

I have tried being suave but quickly ran out of gas.

Anyone here who are considered good looking, (not by your own standards, but from general consensus amongst your friends and past experiences) who have a solid game plan that doesn't resemble the average guy's game?

The idea behind the game is , to be able to use a set of tools to seduce women.
The strongpoint of gaming , pua sciences or whatever is that evry one can use those tools be they average , but also when they are really good looking.

U are right tough, games and lines might , in your case, be silly ... mainly becouse those things are used to create interest. When a girl invites u over, she alrdy is intersted.

When this happens: I walk into a bar, see an amazing girl I like, she looks at me for say 3 seconds, smiles, and slowly looks away in a "you can come talk.." Just DO so.
Walk up to her say hi , and hear what she has to say.

I think at the moment , the weak point in your game is conversation and conversation holding. Luckily there are great posts about that in the appropreate section.

oh and i think i speak for all those average looking guys in here when i say ;
We do alright

keruli

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just go direct if you don't know what to say:

"i thought youre cute so i have to come and say hi"
"i thought youre cute so i have to stop you"
"you are absolutely stunning"
"hey im X"

Guys have a LOT of room to improve with regards to looks.. get a tan, whiten your teeth, improve your body language, and you're pretty much good to go. If you do all that and don't feel adequite in terms of looks, it's probably a mental issue rather than a physical one.

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thanks guys, I read a lot about not complementing the girls physical attractiveness but I think it might work in my case if its genuine and charming. Tonality plays a huge role of course, so I think as long as I don't come off as cheesy ill give it a shot.

I do agree that I'm gonna have to learn and develop my mid-game, this is a hard thing for me so I'll have to give it more work.

I guess the foundation of all game, no matter how good you think your opener is or how good looking u think you are, everything is based on the size of your balls. The slickest opener and best mid-game are useless if you don't have the balls to approach, so I'm gonna try to improve that as well perhaps with a hot steamy sauna before i go out

i'm for sure good looking. I open with a smile and a simple "how are you". I have normal conversation mixed in with playfulness and playful cocky funny. Always be playful with cf. Use qaulification and screening, comfort building. Dress nice and have social proof. It's the same game for normal looking and ugly guys accept you should assume strong attraction from her. Just open direct and be a mixture of playful and deep, no need for hard hitting negs or inderect openers.

I did incredibly well on looks alone before I found out about PUA, I work out alot and have aesthetically strong attractive features. I would go to a party and pick out the best looking girl there and 4/5 times I would get a phone number, a tongue kiss or take her home (if they were single)

My natural game has always been good but not perfect that's why I am endevouring to learn every little trick in the book so I can turn that 4/5 ratio into 99/100. Pretty much its a power trip.

You need to learn PUA methods like you are an ugly dude, so you have both sides of the coin covered. You won't be young and pretty for ever so don't think yourself above these tactics. No offence but it is an arrogant attitude.

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im actually kinda shocked that you would even make a forum basically stating that your above the game purely based on your looks. to be honest sure you might be able to take home some nice looking chicks but are you just gonna be in it for one night stands the rest of your life? i mean i personally see the game as a way of strengthing your personality inside (mentaly) and outside (persona). which i mean i cant really see a girl wanting to ever date a guy that was gameless for any length of time. i once told a girl i was a pick up artist it was kinda funny at first she just thought i was a pig and what not, as the night progressed she actually admited that she liked that i was a pick up artist it was fun and entertaining and that most guys just cant keep her attention like that... GIRLS LIKE THE EMOTIONAL RIDE your looks only get you aproch invitations i doubt IOI's i just dont see you brushing your hair back and a girl just creaming herself right there at the bar no offence fabio. i could be wrong

wow man relax. I was just seeking help on what to do when I get approach invitations, since going up and asking the girl to smell my wrists at that point is probably gonna be useless.

Im not trying to claim I'm "above the game". If you go to the gym, you will always notice that some guys or even some of your friends are just genetically blessed and have the ability to grow muscle faster than others, or have the ability to lose fat much easier. For this reason, people tailor their workouts and diets based on their needs and their genetics. So much in the same way that a lean guy doesn't need to work as hard on his diet than a chubby kid, good looking guys obviously have some benefits when it comes to initial attraction, and should tailor their game based on what they have and what they lack.

Obviously, the reason I even posted a thread was cause my "fabio-ness" wasn't enough to get a girl, so as much as I agree with your premise of strengthening my personality, I can't say that your conclusion about a girl not creaming herself added anything of value to this thread.

im not trying to fight you on this buddy . im just saying whats wrong with the regular game? sure looks play a part ill give you that im like an 8.2 it normally helps, unless im dealing with like an hb10 who then really doesnt see me as much for looks go.. if your a 10 you obviously shouldnt go around neg opening 5-6's i think thats a given. but the only thing you really probably dont need to focus on is your a2 material if your getting aproch invetations... and that really goes for anybody no matter how they look. you really dont need to use some canned opener if your already getting aproch invites she wants you there your not going to get blown out untill you have atleast started your a2 and probably only if your bombing. im sorry if i seemed so crude about girls creaming themselfs but your in an aproch thread saying you dont need help with your aproches? my advice if your having problems holding the convo is to read up on your a2 catagory skills like push pull, C/F, DHV, Desplaying Alpha traits, Jealousy plot lines, and pre selection towards wemon.

The better looking you are, the better Direct Game will work for you. That's like a rule of thumb. You are absolutely right about complimenting a girl in a genuine way. It will work for you if you have a strong and unapologetic presence. In fact, that will even work for most average-looking and many below-average-looking guys, too. Most guys are just too chicken-shit to try it while being 100% sure that they want to do it, which is why they fail.

If you really are as good-looking as you say you are, work on your direct game while focusing on lowering Anti-Slut Defense and you'll be a god.

I can't say I can relate completely. I don't get these hot girls making eye contact and giving me IOIs from across the room. But it seems after I hook up with an HB I always hear the same thing "God I didn't even thing I was in your league." or "I didn't think I stood a chance with you". Oddly enough I think I am slightly better looking then average. I have no clue why they say that. But anyways to the point.

If a woman is giving you "distances IOI" (cool did I just make up a new phrase? Haha) I would suggest C/F. Walk up and say "You know it's hard to ignore a woman who keeps stalking me with her eyes!" or "You keep following me with your eyes, you aren't a private eye set to follow me are you?".

Or my personal favorite.
TCMS:Wow, you look just like my 7th ex-wife.
HB:You were married 7 times?
TCMS:Long story that the FBI and CIA wont let me talk about. *SMILE*

Hahaha Fabio!

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Dude a chick ain't gonna lie down on the floor and start undressing because she saw your face, you actually have to have game. Game is game ugly or not

You stated that she gives the impression of "you can come talk", well if thats the case you dont need an opener.
It would be like using an opener on a girl who opens you, because if thats the impression you get, then she has opened you.
If she accepts based on initial attraction then a1 means nothing to you, skip it.

End of the day, if a woman is hot as hell but thick as mince, i aint touching it and i think women think the same way with us.
If they want something pretty, they buy a plant.
So try to work on your identity more, dont use canned material, cos it will cause problems, be yourself. If you dont have any hobbies/things to talk about. get some!

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