I like to think my game is pretty tight. Last week a girl bumped into me and I did the whole "hey, stop the violence" thing and I ended up f closing. A few days ago a girl in a bar asked me my age and I did the whole "is that you're best pickup line" thing and ended up k closing her.

My problem is I never really get good results when I approach an HB, but when I have something situational to work off I'm in the clear. Does anyone have any suggestions? This is actually starting to piss me off.

youre probably thinking about it too much.. notice when the girls opened you up, you didnt have much time to think, you just reacted with something funny.

same goes for opening, the more you think about it, the worse off you'll be


also, dont forget the fact that not every girl is going to be susceptible to your game, unfortunate thing is, a lot of it is a numbers game.

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good advice man, i think your prlly right on this. shoot first, ask questions later.

I am the same way... I cant open for shit... but get me through the first 5 minutes... and I can f-close almost everytime.

Find somebody who is really good at opening and go out with them. I'm the opposite of you guys. I can open like no man's business but after 5-10 minutes I've lost them somewhere. I think I just stay too goofy and need to switch to a little more serious and down to earth.

Anyway, I met a doctor who had solid game like you guys, but couldn't open. We learned a lot from each other. He'd get to see me open the set and I'd get to see him take it to a more intimate/serious level.

Now he's back doing residency and I'm out going by myself. so if anyone is in St. Louis, let me know.