when/where is this the most apropriate opener to use

"Hey, how's it going."

She will say

"Fine."

You then say

"Cool. What are you doing later?"

She will say

"I'm not sure."

You then say

"Do you want to come home with me?"

Then you hold.

Hold.

HOLD....................

lol wut?????

dude what is this? when you said "hey hows i going" you opened the set. is that what you were asking?

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http://www.puaratings.com/articles/ciar ... apocalypse
You have to have a great frame for this to work, and you're basically playing the numbers game but it has worked for some guys.

ive never had the guts to use this opener, get massive AA just thinking bout it, I would love to use it one day

Hey guys,

I'm just new to the forums. But I'm a year into pickup now, and I would like to share my thoughts about the infamous "apocalypse opener.

I've experimented with this sweet opener some time ago and I can tell you it's powerful! Most mistakes guys make is to think that this is THE MAGIC ROUTINE. It isn't. It's a MAGIC OPENER. That means, the followup is even more important. So after you've spoken the three lines(how are you, what are you doin', wanna come home?) you NEED to act completely normal again. Mostly of the time the HB won't respond with a direct "yes", so you respond to every other response with a simple, "Okay" and introduce yourself. During your non-sexual normal talk, you'll start to receive IOI's. Now is the time to kino escalate and get her into your bed.

Like 10seconds said, it's still a numbers game, but you can greatly increase your success by executing this opener well. A few very important guidelines for successful apocalypsing:

1. Success rates (f-close) are higher near the end of the night, or at the very beginning.
2. Success rates are massive when the HB is by herself! (ASD won't pop up)
3. Never ever show any sign of hesitation during opening. You're like asking the time.
4. Act very normal after you've opened.
5. Be unaffected by her answer (wanna come home?).

Good luck,
mister boss