no matter what opener i use, i can't get them to feel feelings of attraction.


i feel like i can't kino because they aren't opened up well enough yet.

i can tell dhv stories, ask questions, but nothing triggers it! they just want to get on with their business...

Practice, practice, and more practice. And don't be . It doesn't effect you and it's not a judgement on you. When a woman rejects, she rejects something you DID in your approach, not something/someone you ARE. You never get rejected either, you just discover women with bad taste.

i also fail alot at this , my biggest mistake that i didn't embed enough interesting DHV spikes in my stories.
Als be a like, don't care too much and do your thing - i don't care who you are im just being polite go with me or go f**k yourself

First, I always kino easily , because I speak with hands, and I always touch people, not too much , but in a smoothly way. I think you can kino anybody easily , if people feel, that it is your way of acting. If you're not animated, there is no way you can kino quickly. I think you should try to make physical contact with all your friends , just to get friendly with touching people.

Then, my game is all about getting people invested( I also neg a lot). I'm not asking opinion and other things because I want to number close her(Yes I want it , but you know what I mean). I always link my openers to me , and usually , they are games with my friends. Thet call me "player" , not because I'm a pua , but , because , I've always stupid and funny games to do, with missions, like in fight club, but not about same things lol, I just want to have fun. So I'm trying to get ,set , invested into my games, they're being part of the system, and they're immediately hooked. I also can close them easily , because of it , we're in a game together , so we have a reason to see each other , quickly.

In fact, when I say my game is about getting people invested , it's all about dhv , and preselection . Look , I make games , so I'm a fun guy, I've got friends , so I'm a fun guy, and you can have more preselection , if you include girls names , or if girls are into your game. I'm a leader , an alpha male, because, doing this stuff, make them think you're a leader of men. You've got imagination, and nobody seem to be sad around you. They're coming in my world without, being forced, they want to be there. That's not me who is trying to come into their life, to make my place there, all the contrary. So I'm already the first price. Then, I can neg them , just to show them , that, it will not be easy to have me , install confort, make her prove to me that she is the right thing for me , make her win me , and close her....

That may seem hard to do, but , nothing easier