ok so im 21 years old, not classicly beautiful, but not ugly, pretty stocky build, and im 6ft 4...

walked into a set last night and opened with

"hey, i'm just wondering if i can get your opinion on something, me and my mates have just been discussing this *gesture towards my friends*, i'm thinking about getting my eyebrow pierced, but of them think it would make me look gay, what do you think?"

they all said tht it depended on if i was happy with it or not and not to pay attention toi my friends.

so i followed up with "so what if i had walked in here with my eyebrow pierced, what would you have thought of me?"

and my target answered with, "well if im honest your not really my type so i wouldnt have an opinion on it"

this is where i lost my nerve and made the pleasantries, and walked away from the set feeling totally down.

where did i go wrong? what would you have done in this situation?

Thanks

[quote="Sleight_of_Hand"]ok so im 21 years old, not classicly beautiful, but not ugly, pretty stocky build, and im 6ft 4...

walked into a set last night and opened with

"hey, i'm just wondering if i can get your opinion on something, me and my mates have just been discussing this *gesture towards my friends*, i'm thinking about getting my eyebrow pierced, but of them think it would make me look gay, what do you think?"

they all said tht it depended on if i was happy with it or not and not to pay attention toi my friends.

so i followed up with "so what if i had walked in here with my eyebrow pierced, what would you have thought of me?"

and my target answered with, "well if im honest your not really my type so i wouldnt have an opinion on it"

this is where i lost my nerve and made the pleasantries, and walked away from the set feeling totally down.

where did i go wrong? what would you have done in this situation?

Thanks[/quote

"so what if i had walked in here with my eyebrow pierced, what would you have thought of me?"

Over here you asked for approval....That's were you went wrong IMO. Never ever ask approval in any way...Or you have to bring it really really playful so that she'll know you're just goofing around with her...Try being more cocky...Something like: "Most guys I see with their eyebrow pierced look kinda gay, but I'm sure it will look awesome on me...Everything looks awesome on me...I mean come on...look at me..." Over here you can pull out a Zoolander-like face ore something....

Good luck man

cheers mate, out again tonight with a new wing, so will try it!

Its a tricky situation. You need to show some DHV to theese girls.
You cant just be some random guy who doesn't now what you think about stuff.
Tell them about what your friends think (thats what you ask them for an opion), but have your own mind fixed and demonstrate value:
They: Bla bla.

Show that you have your own opinion and let them know why you're getting it (Show DHV)

"I think its gonna be my big break, ya know noone would sign Marlyn Manson in the begining, thats why he did stuff too stand out."
They will ask you something like: Are you in a band? Bla bla

Use something like this to have them ask you about something thats DHV.
Intresting job, hobbies whatever you usually use.

I dont think you should ask them what they would think of you, before you have created attraction. I mean, you need to see that they are into you before, cause you are pretty much asking: If I approched you, would you like me?
And thats DLV, needy etc.

Opionopeners are great if the sets hook directly, and if they do there's probably no need for the shit I just wrote down. But If they are semi-intrested in your questions... Plan B.

Let me know what ya think.
Good luck man!

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If you say you are going out with a wing, it would be better to turn it so it would be his decision/hesitation. That way you don't look insecure or looking for acceptance.

PUA: Hey, I need a women's opinion on this and you guys look like you have some fashion sense.
HB: Sure
PUA: My buddy over there is thinking of getting his eyebrow pierced. Now he's having doubts and starting to think it looks gay. I'm telling him it's fine, but what do girls think about pierced eyebrows?

and my target answered with, "well if im honest your not really my type so i wouldnt have an opinion on it"

i would reply with : wel i didnt ask if your my type , i already got a date.

of course everyone can get an opinion but you brought it like you ask for permission, she just set her bitch shield up because you got DLVéd

sniper neg really

You gave up too fast she false disqualified you and u did nothing
when insted u should of said Omg no way u beat me too it i always just going to say tht and negged her and stack on from there Time constraint and Dhv's etccc..
MY beilief system is that every women is attracted to me i just got to bring tht from within her to the surface ; Y should u care wat she said women False disqualify as well next time keep ure head up and go on as if wat she said didnt bother u

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No comfort + you qualifying yourself as an opener = bad news.

I'm new here. These are really great insights.