Okay, I just came up with a few ideas for future interactions, non have been field tested as such but I'm sure they'll be useful... anyways.
I was pondering about an opener that would basically run as a female perspective type.
Me: Hey there, can I ask a quick question? I need a female opinion on something.
HB: Sure/yes etc.
Me: Okay, do you believe in love at first sight? (Snip them) Cause like in movies and stuff, you'll see a man and woman actually fall in love with each other after just one meeting, do you think it's possible?
Then I began thinking that maybe this was too upfront and would give away intentions or whatever.. and I prolly wouldn't use it myself unless I was in a club or something stupid.
However, this got my mind thinking in a really weird way about sarging and approaching in general. I began to think of the GM style, how you just start talking dirty and it seems to work out to bring about results.
This is what I began to think of... After the opener, let's say in the attraction phase, within the first 20 minutes of meeting a girl, natural game, or routine, it doesn't matter. What if you brought up a subject, in a hypothetical sense, like "Would you ever marry a pornstar?" Of course, you would already have some kind of rapport and this would assume further rapport, kinda elicit sexual values too. It' seems to be very "in your face" and so I thought I'd ask what others had to say about the topic of "Forbidden Topics".

Good question. I have also wondered: Is it a good or bad idea to refer to sexual topics in jokes and stories?

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Ross Jeffries has a part about Weasel-phrase's.

Say
Have You Ever....
Then you force her to recall something.
Have You ever meet a man(Self-point) You loved at first sight.?
Its a command, that looks as a Question.

Three way to a girls heart.
1: Weasel Phrase's. Using Trance and her memory to turn her on.

2: Quotes. You can say nearly any thing if it's someone else your Quoting.

3: Feelings. If you describ or ask her about her feeling. She has to feel them to describ them. (It's a female thing.)

Go play....

There's no such thing as a forbidden topic. You may not want to use love at first sight as your opener, thought I'd have to field test it a bit to make sure, but when you've built decent rapport, you SHOULD broach the sexual. It is important for you to make your expectations, your wants and your needs known, so that she can do the same. Be able to bring that to the table, and let her know that its cool for her to do the same.

But don't joke about it. A joke merely obfuscates the seduction, which is not what you want. If you talk about sex, make it the only thing you take seriously in the whole of the conversation. Joke about politics. Joke about death. Joke about family and friends and whatever else takes your fancy, but do NOT joke about sex.

Tell her, with subtle hints and in the middle of a story or a routine, what you can do for her sexually. Make sure she knows that you have every intention of stacking multiple orgasms on her, and destroying her preconcieved notions of a one-night-stand. Hell, make sure she knows you like to wear sequins and get spanked if that's what you're into. But don't joke about it.

In sales, we call it planting a seed. You state, straight out, what you can do for your target, and let her think about it subconsciously. You let the seed grow by reinforcing the idea, over and over again throughout the conversation. Water the idea, let it flower, and eventually she'll think it was her idea to come to your house and get a deep dickin', not yours.

Well said Monkey I am sold.

Talking about sex will kill your conversation if you are not into the seduction phase yet. I wouldn't joke about sex either. As for the opener, if you really want to know the answer or just know the reaction you'll get, try it out and find out.

It will kill your conversation? Really? I have never had a problem using sex in a conversation. I am a really sexual person, I have a load of confidence in my sexual behavior and it shows. Like Monkey says....There's no such thing as a forbidden topic. I don't wait for the "seduction phase". I am not afraid to bring sex up, and I joke about sex alot, hell I even put myself down in a conversation to easy any tension.

EXAMPLE:
HER:So your a really sexual person huh?
ME:Well I remember this one time I was really sexual, the girl looked at me and was like, So is it in yet? I just looked right back at her and was like... IN? I was done 10 minutes ago babe.

But then again I am just like that and it seems all the girls I talk to seem perfectly comfortable and actually wanna continue the conversation with me. Maybe the reason you think sex will kill the conversation is because you are going about it all wrong. Or just have self doubt and the girl picks up on that and doesn't want to continue the conversation....

If a girl feels okay of talking about sex with you your in the zone man , And how to make this happen , talking about that .

Using some NLP :

Imagine you and I in a Secret Trip to South Africa and all we are going to do is be on a jacuzzi having a lot of FUN.... Etc...

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I have said it before, and I will say it once more: NLP = EVIL.

I think it's important to talk sex during the comfort phase.

We used to talk about this in sales: it's called acclimatization. As the target becomes used to you talking about sex and sexuality, it won't seem strange when you broach it in seduction phase. She acclimatizes to it before you run for the close.

i understand the point of aclimatizing her asap, HOWEVER, wont they become disinterested if they sense youre trying to get in their pants to soon? How do you acclimatize them soon, yet not turn them off by seeming like a regular horny bastard?

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i have tried to refer to love....

although i refered to it after i did the cube.

YOU: do you know what love is

HB : yes/no (answer doesnt matter, just need a response0

YOU: if yes: how would you define love then
if no: show some sort of concern. like "really" implying that you cant believe she hasnt been in love. then say" well how would you define love."

HB: (defintion) generally something about trust

HB: 80% of the time will ask " how would you define love. (ioi)

YOU: (make up your own definition) i say " love is a feeling shared between two people that cant be explained.

(she will generally be interested in you and not know why, so by telling her that love cant cannot be explained this will leave her to ponder on how she feels about you at the time, generally as i said they are already interested in you. this can take it to the next level developin DHV.) (the reason i say she will be more interested is because she is already attracted to a complete stranger and cant explain why?)

WILLY DICK

I think you shouldn't joke about sex either.it shows of bad taste.
and definetely not mention it as an opener,but as a normal serious conversation it can be a useful tool.even for rapport establishing. if you do it the right way the HB will see you as a sentimental person.(I meant that in a good way! )

Hm, my experience is that it's not a problem mentioning sex if you are up front with it. It will only be weird if you're trying to subcommunicate some hidden agenda. Either way, she will know that you want to get into her pants (she's probably not that stupid). Let her know that you're not trying to sneak in there.

Statement Of Intent... not Implication Of Intent.

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