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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:22 am 
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I am unbelievebaly shy and I have no experience gaming girls. I need the simplest quickest canned opener anyone on this page has.

What do you reccomend?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:23 am 
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Social Truth: The only boundaries that exist in society are those which we believe exist...

there are a thousand ways to approach, questions are one of my favorite - but what you have to realize before any of them will work is simple: Girls WANT you to approach them. They WANT you to ask them questions, flirt with them, play the game, be something different and exciting. Even the one's who try shooting guys down enjoy doing so, and if that ever happens then realize that she NEEDED you to hit on her so that she could get what she needed - validation. You are providing a resource - you are controlling the assets because you are initiating and bringing value.

What you have to internalize is that YOU are the asset. Thought experiment: if no guys hit on girls, what do you think they would ALL say about their night??? They would say it was boring and uneventful! Girls like to pretend they're anything but in control - they want to externalize as much responsibility for their reality as possible, which provides an opportunity for you to take charge and help them have a better time than they would have without you...

I've seen so many chodes try to talk to girls who are already having a good time, and when he gets there, the good time stops - REALLY IMPORTANT - if he can't match that good time, if he can't at least BE on par with that level of fun, he is immediately unwelcome, and one of the best ways to do that is like Style said: "wow, it looks like the party's over here!" acknowledge the good time they're having (which makes you the "cool dealer") You're telling them who's cool, which subconsciously puts you in a position of authority. There are two kinds of people in a social situation, those validating and those seeking validation. Those wishing they were having a good time and those INITIATING a good time, creating a positive reality.

Dude, just keep in the front of your mind how much fun that table is going to have when you start talking to them, how much more exciting their life is going to be after meeting you, and then deliver like the guru you are, man.

Experiment: talk to 10 people you don't know every day, grocery line, restaurant, gas station, work, neighbors, who EVER. You'll find a pattern forming - they WANT to be talked to 99% of the time, they're just operating a victim mentality and they're waiting for someone to talk to them. Have stimulating conversation, ask questions, listen to answers - every human has something of value to teach... Once you're able to talk to homeless people, dudes walking dogs, girls pumping gas, you should start to get better at controlling the amount of tension you're emitting:)

My absolute favorite question though, I came up with it a week ago and it is working INCREDIBLY well - "Hey, I have a question for you girls. I'm really curious about this, and I've been getting some really interesting feedback, 'If you had to fight a Tyrannosaurus Rex, What would you wear'?" I can (and have) walked up to a gang of bikers and asked them that - it's a fun question, people like to have fun.

When you walk up to a set of girls, a set of girls and guys, or a girl by herself, you have to realize that you ARE bringing a valuable element to their evening. BE FUN, don't act happy, don't force a smile, it IS FUN - You ARE a GOOD TIME, bro! Social Truth: People are mirrors, they'd much rather reflect the energy you're generating than generate energy of their own, so if you're fun, they're going to be having fun, simple. If you act nervous or unsure or scared, they're going to be unsure or nervous or scared... Which is precisely why confidence is so significant - it diminishes the ability of others to challenge the reality you're generating and projecting.[/b][/u][/i]

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:01 am 
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Observational openers work the best.....make it quick and get out of set.....after awhile you'll want to stay in set......best way to get over shyness is to talk to people guys and girls....talk to the waiter/cashier/sales person...ask how there day is going.....its hard the 1st couple of times but once your able to open up to people you'll be set.....


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:09 am 
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i have great success with this line. "hey, whats your name?", all comes down to execution. The best way to execute this is to approach the target from about 8-10 feet away. Walk straight and keep your eyes locked at her upper region. When your about a foot away, stop. 4 out 5 times she'll look at you, just say "hey, whats you're name?" works like a charm. If she doesnt look at you just say it anyway, works also.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:43 am 
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I think lines like "hey hows it going" work better once you have confidence. I would use something like "hey, my friends have been ripping me all day, does this top look gay?". then go from there

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Observational openers work the best.....make it quick and get out of set.....after awhile you'll want to stay in set......best way to get over shyness is to talk to people guys and girls....talk to the waiter/cashier/sales person...ask how there day is going.....its hard the 1st couple of times but once your able to open up to people you'll be set.....



Damn right on... Best info out there guys!! stop looking around for fucking openers....[/quote]


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