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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:24 am 
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Hi , im new to becoming a PUA :wink:

I am a handsome guy, i know it sounds not nice that i say it, but yes , girls like me when they see me.

So, when im a in club basically i get lots of IOI's from girls, so i think i dont need to create too much value, because they are allready interested.

my problem is, there are basically 2 types of girls, ones that act bitchy but they still look at me like come and get me if you can, and others that just look at me like more shy, like come i like you.


How do i should act with each type ?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:40 pm 
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okay.. gotta put my 2 cents here...

men are usually the one that comes up to a girl.. (i use to think "good looking guys" didn't need to) but if you don't approach, then nothin happens... a low percentage of women will show confidence and come up to a guy and let them know that they are attracted to them..

in this sense.. think of it as if you are the woman... you see a good looking guy, very attractive... but you just can't do it.. since society has block your mentality that if you show any approach.. or follow your desire as a woman.. then you will be branded as a slut or a whore.. now the only thing you could do is wait for that guy to approach you!

but.. YOU don't approach.. and just rely on your good looks... there are a low percentage of alpha males and alpha females.. that does not care about what society thinks.. because they handle their own... majority of us are betas who are waiting to have a nice conversation, but just cannot follow through...

it's great that you already have confidence on your looks... but it's only the half way point.. when you don't even approach a girl... hope it makes sense.. and good luck!


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okay.. gotta put my 2 cents here...

men are usually the one that comes up to a girl.. (i use to think "good looking guys" didn't need to) but if you don't approach, then nothin happens... a low percentage of women will show confidence and come up to a guy and let them know that they are attracted to them..

in this sense.. think of it as if you are the woman... you see a good looking guy, very attractive... but you just can't do it.. since society has block your mentality that if you show any approach.. or follow your desire as a woman.. then you will be branded as a slut or a whore.. now the only thing you could do is wait for that guy to approach you!

but.. YOU don't approach.. and just rely on your good looks... there are a low percentage of alpha males and alpha females.. that does not care about what society thinks.. because they handle their own... majority of us are betas who are waiting to have a nice conversation, but just cannot follow through...
Well I see the situation of EC coming into play here and being very important. If a girl eye fucks the shit outta you, you probably should go opener her quick if you like her. "You can't look at me like that without saying hi, Hey im name here. Hate using the HB scale but 7-8's get more guys to approach them then 9-10's because most beta males are afraid to approach the 9-10's. That's somewhat of an advantage if you approach them because it shows you have more balls then them and if you play it smooth you most likely win.

Also, usually when at a social event, if a woman makes strong EC with you, she's MOST likely interested, unless you have something in your teeth/face. EC is a nice and useful invitation to start talking to women.

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Thanx to both.

Ok, but the thing is sometimes the ones that look at me with a bitchy face, when i go to her they just, feel like thay had what they wanted.

so with these bitchy ones i should give hers active negs.

for example the other day in a club one sexy girl was looking at me, she even passed by me and touched me.

then when i aproached she was acting bitchy and fast went away.

maybe i should open with her friend and neg her just a bit.

then when she show more IOI i should talk to her, but kind of result should i expect of what i say ?


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next time that happens.. when a girl touches you.. say "hey don't touch the merchandise!" or anything in similar.. gotta have a positive attitude and a good vibe, or you will just come as a jerk... show that she can't do whatever the fuck she wants! you don't see guys just touching girls out of nowhere.. why can a girl do it to guys?.. right? you are the prize, and no one can just do whatever the fuck they want to you just coz they want to!


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For the Bitchy girls neg neg neg. you have to disqualify yourself as a potential suiter before you can start your routines. If you can identify the bitchy ones before you approach i would suggest the "Bird opener" (see in the approaches section) because it immediately disqualifies you.

for the shyer ones you can just go in with normal routines and neg occasionally.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:06 am 
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for the shyer ones you can just go in with normal routines and neg occasionally.

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I agree with what you said about the bitchy ones, definately neg, make them realize that they have nothing to be bitchy about, and no right to be bitchy to you cause frankly, they aren't as hot as they think they are!

But for the shy ones... well there's usually a reason they are shy. I would NEVER neg a shy girl, and i might even actually openly compliment them if the calibration is right. Most shy girls have self esteem issues and if you neg them in any way, it could shatter the little confidence they do have and make them think that you're a total prick.


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