Why would any PUAs go to clubs when every HB has her shield up, people can't hear each other and there are lots of dumb drunk ****s there?

Because that is where the sex is. Its the mating-dance scene. If you cant compete, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

Girls go to clubs to look sexy, meet guys, and perhaps take them home and fuck their brains out. It is pretty much the #1 reason they are there, regardless of what they may say, or even feel.

Try doing that at the library...

Not to mention, there are more girls per square foot in a club than anywhere else, and there is less clothing per square inch of their skin, than anywhere else except the beach. Which, not so coincidentally, is also a really great place to meet chicks and score.

That said, if the noise level is too high to communicate, its a bad place to score, and most PUA's will avoid such areas. So they pick clubs with chill out rooms, or quieter clubs, or bars, or just try to get the hot girls to follow them out of that club and into a more isolated area.

I see your point, however there are more men per sq foot also. It is more difficult to open in a club with a situational opener that does not seem desperate and thus DLV.

Ok first, situational openers are TERRIBLE in the night scene if you dont have real good skills. Try reading thru these forums a bit more to get some ideas of what and what not to do.

As for all the guys? Who cares, they suck, you dont. Or at least, thats what you should aspire to. In other words, and I will say it again, "If you can't compete, get the fuck out of the kitchen!"

Learn to compete so that you win most of the time, and you will care less about all the loser schmucks out there. In fact, those assholes are helping you by defining your awesomeness with their giant AFC ineptitude.

Same thing goes for bitch shields. If you know what you are doing, its shields down, captain!

Other than to ask their opinion on something or asking whether they witnessed"that fight outside", how do you open a 3 set who are talking among each other without looking desperate?

Ok man, I think its best for you to use the search function at this point and peruse the forums, as we've pretty much run the gauntlet of "why clubs?" and I could spend all night typing things out that are already written down by other members.

There are a ton of openers (the fight outside thing can work, it sucks in Denmark) you should just read a bunch of them and pick ones that fit your style best.

Dont forget especially to read up on how to deliver openers... a lot of guys will just walk up to a set and speel it off like some sort of line, and that is exactly how the girls perceive it, as a cheezy somewhat different pickup line, and they get blown out on the best openers and think, game is crap! Its all about deliver, so search that as well, things like rooting or grounding, body rocking, over the shoulder delivery, false time constraints, etc etc etc..

Good luck, pal!

Thank you for your advice; been useful.

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Very true, but thats not answering the specific question, is it?

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Yea clubs are a pain for sarging(ie loud music, tons of afc's, there bitch shields).....but its great for trying new things out.....its practice for you.....the best approach for dealing with clubs....open over the shoulder next to her at the bar....talk loud and slow(talkin slow is key).....ask them for there take on something....also make friends with the bartenders....but overall your not going to meet the girls of your dreams at a bar/club

I never expect to meet the girl of my dreams at a club. I go to have fun with my friends and to work on skills that I am weak on. (And you should have an idea what skills you are weak on) You can open so many girls in such a short time. You could never open as many at a supermarket or library without looking like a tool. I'm not sure you can even open that many in a bar or quiet lounge. Think of clubs as a testing ground. Try out new material and different deliveries. If you lighten up in them and enjoy yourself a little more instead of trying to close everyone you open you just may have a good time and who knows you may get lucky 1 out of 20 times. Considering you can probably open 20 in the course of a night at a few different clubs that isn't too bad.

BTW there is a whole school of thought that discourages "sarging" or as they call it "chasing" at clubs or anywhere else in the first place. If you like clubs go to them and do your thing at them. Approach everyone in the room or don't it doesn't matter. You're the man and you know it. You’re just out having a good time. If you go with the expressed intent of hooking up you're probably putting too much pressure on yourself and it will suck. If you are having trouble in clubs in the first place than you probably are putting too much pressure on yourself. I actually like going to clubs with my AFC friends because I know they are not going to approach anyone. They have no expectations of hooking up so they are just there to have fun and watch me work the room at my leisure. If I open 3 or 4 girls in the course of a night they think I am a god (emphasis on the small g) and being a god amongst your circle is very alpha.


Either way just try to have fun because you will project that vibe and everyone wants to be around the guy having a good time.

I try to practice in the hardest environments, Cheltenham is literally 10 guys to every girl on certain nights and all those guys are muscley AMOG jocks, if I can get good results there then it should be easy to pick up elsewhere.

Also most PUAs aren't looking for relationships and so clubs are the best place to get ONS's.

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'cos its target rich. The fact that its so loud gives you a great reason to get really close to them and kino becomes so much easy... too bad i cant go out that often

Guys this is some great info! In fact I went to a club last night! And you guessed it right - very loud, cant communicate as accurately as youd like, TONS of douche bags/AFCs, bitch shields are up pretty hard, and just plain crowded the whole time.


I danced most of the night and eventually dancing behind girls butts was not a big deal at all.

I agree that its a target rich zone, but its also a more competitive setting. The one I went to has tons of HBs who are dressed super sexy.


Overall I agree that sarging in a place like this is for the more advanced guys who REALLY know what they are doing.

Since its loud, kino is very nice and easy, and I kino'd some fine butts! Very pleasant to run your fingers over girls nice round butt with silky smooth dress covering it. Not sure how I even got away with it.

Had a pretty good night aside from joking dancing with a big girl who ripped my NICE ralph Lauren shirt wide open thus I was squating on the floor trying to find the buttons. Then she asked me if I wanna fuck her and tried to stick her hands in my pants to grab my johnson.

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