So I'm in highschool and at our dances most girls will never get off of the dance floor so I can never talk to them and open. It also very loud since they are dancing near the speakers. What should I do if I see a target on the dance floor that never leaves it? Should i go and try to grind with her or what? And how much should I dance at these dances so that I don't DLV?
HELP!

Not sure of a best answer, but one suggestion I've seen is to just go dance by yourself. Learn to dance well, and let the girls come to you, or motion your target to join you. I haven't tried this much in dance clubs I occasionally go to, but will when I get the opportunity.

Gruuve

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The Dance floor is a tricky one. I am an ex competition break dancer so the dance floor is my hunting ground. I go out, I dance by myself and the women are cheering and in awe generally. Afterward they approach me or one of my wings to find out who I am and if I am a professional. However for most it is awkward and will not open up many opportunities to run game if A. your confidence level is low, or B. you can't dance that well or worse not at all.

So my advice is simple, either learn how to dance, and really well, or stick to venues that are better suited to your skill set.

A PUA can do alot with body language alone to attract a target but if she cant hear you or is too consumed with the music then your out of your element with out dance skills. Lurking around on the dance floor and trying to dance with a girl or her friends is a very good way to get shut out as you have yet to disarm any of your obstacles. So I would avoid it.

Ben P

The dance floor, ITS A TRAP!

~Chairmen

well one thing i do is go out there and dance, if i see a target and get no eye contact or anything i walk by her and "hip check" her. basicly walk by and bump her with your hips then after that go " Hey excuse you, the dance floor is big enough for both of us" as you are saying it have a Smile (not a creey one) and just continue dancing. either they will ignore you and you'll have to find a diffrent approch later or she'll reply back or join in dancing with you. Remember it has to be an innocent bump and smile.

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i seperate dancing from sarging usually. once a month ill just go and dance and get drunk - letting all sarging go. and just dance with anyone. but if you want to open on the dance floor make sure your peackocked. they will open you. i have this cool led tag thing which i can put a personal message on - and it flashes to everyone. it says HI5!! and girls come up to me with their hands in the air. i usually high 5 it, and hold on, spin them round and theyll dance with me. then i wipe my hand on my trousers for a neg, as if she was dirty . this way when i grab her hand and pull her to the bar it will just be escalating the hand pullin when i span her.
- taken from a previous post of mine - a reply to a dance floor question also.

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V1V

Haha, I like your neg V1V.

To the topic starter. Have a look at this: http://www.theheartofseduction.com/bein ... loor-game/

Oki

Hahahaha I love heartwork, he's really a great guy and an amazing PUA for someone so young. Definately has the title of best under 21 PUA in my book. That weekend was probably one of the best I've had in the community also, getting to meet and become friends with a ton of really amazing guys.

With that said lets get to your question on dance floor game. I'll be honest here, I rarely ever do it. For me the dance floor is a place to take the girl for sexual escalation, not usually an opening place. However I have done it and fortunately my mentor AFC Adam is probably the single best PUA when it comes to dance floor game. I'll have him really train me on it, or just figure it out myself, when he comes back but here's how he broke it down for me.

First off you don't need to know how to dance to run dance floor game. Dancing is not equal to dance floor game at all. Adam is a mediocre dancer at best, kind of looks like a bobbing snake honestly, but he could run circles around all the break dancer guys...sorry Ben P.

What you need to keep in mind is that it's all about providing value right away (usually in the form of fun) and not bringing the vibe of the group down. This means you add to their fun and don't interrupt their dancing with normal conversation. Dance floor game is also all about getting the girls to invest, well all game is but it's much more visible here. The girls don't expect you to be a good dancer and don't care, THEY want to dance and they want you to appreciate them for it and give them attention. They invest in you by dancing for you, you give them attention validation. The more they dance for you the more investment occurs which means the more attracted they become and then it's simply about sexually escalating.

Now when it comes to the actual approach Adam first advocates....surprise surprise....socia proof and preselection. Get some girls who aren't your target dancing around you or game some girls off the dance floor and bring them on with you. Now that part isn't essential, unless you're trying to open a 9 or 10 on the dance floor, though it always helps. Once you're on the dance floor the basic format is...

Dance
Mirror
Lead

When it comes to the first step of dancing the real trick is to just not take yourself to seriously. I remember opening girls on the dance floor by doing the running man and chicken leg which they loved. Just dance in a way where you're having fun and completely lose the whole "trying to be a bad ass" unless you really know how to break dance or do cool moves. From there you pick the girl you want and mirror her dance moves. Ask her how she did what she did and mimick it in a funny way, see if you can get her to do it again for you and teach you (investment). After that lead by showing her a fun or funny dance move. At this point the set is already open and she's having fun with you so simply take her hand, twirl her around, and put her arm around your neck. Keep her touching you mostly (investment) and also make sure to dance face to face, not that grinding stuff which doesn't do anything for game. From there either isolate or sexually escalate on the dance floor.

Hope this helps

Psych

Psych, your right dance game and dance floor game is different, but if you have both you can escalate much faster with alot less bullshit. You don't have to build social proof as it's already established when a circle is formed around you just to watch. (helps if your the only one in the club who can dance that well)

From my experience on the dance floor 9's and 10's are usually guarded by their friends who will block you out when making your approach. I watch it almost every day as we go out regularly.

Psych has some very good points, if you can disarm the obstacles. However like others have said the dance floor can be a total trap and lower your value to any women watching the dance floor when you get shut down by a set you attempt to approach. So if your game is not tight enough stick to the side lines and catch them off the floor. They rarely stay on the dance floor for more then 4 songs anyways from my experience so you will have a shot soon enough.

BTW we have been sarging in Houston all of this month and will be in PHX starting Friday night till the 25th or so. So if anyone wants to meet up and wing well be happy to show you around the dance clubs. 21 and over clubs though.

Ben P

Just say want to dance then before she answers (cause she wont want to leave her group ) grab her friend to and kind of involve the whole group that way your not singling her out

ask her friends basic yes no question nd all there names (her last make sre you tell the ugy one she has a cool headband or something) Then after the song go to the target what was your name i just remember it was something weird (Neg) (uness it was like really fucked up like chungawingafukmealot then you dont want to use that neg).

Then she will be like Emily or some shit and b like o i thought you said Tiger,

fuck it is loud in here (next song is starting up)

you can now either go its to loud want to head out side Tiger (space ghost, cricket whatever nickname you created) or you can go want to dance then slut dance that bitch triangular gaze bam.

This from grade 8 and 9 never failed I got so many k close 50 in one night (there was a monetary prize gets you over anxiety and rejection)

another way is want to dance (more rejetions but faster)

you have to be the life of the group she is with then give her yourphone

easy number and k close

O and if you have to text her send out something mentioning the nickname you gave her

Couldnt open that link with heartworks post. Shame.

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V1V

All very good mentions.

I'm not a dancer. However, at a club, or in your case, a school dance, there is really no easier way to escalate. So here's my routine.

I go in and make eye contact, or even better, I bring a girl who's not dancing to the dance floor and I SMILE. Just having fun exonerates you from scrutiny. Now my line is normally,

"I can't dance."

Her: Smile, agree, disagree, can't hear me, whatever...

"I'm just going to copy you."

Then whether I copy them or not, it disarms them and also puts them in a show off state, where they are now the focus of attention and they love it. Which is then a perfect state to put them in, right before you SWITCH to another girl nearby for a minute or two. Get her wondering whether she was forward enough etc...

It's all good, just have fun with it.

Also, if that one isn't suited to your style, then here's the silver bullet that can never do wrong.

You follow the first couple parts of my earlier routine, smile, playful, fun...

Then you say this no matter what race they are...

"You dance like a white girl." - Big smile

then they're laughing and challenged. I usually get...

"You dance like a white guy."

and I say 'I know."

Keep it fun and light and they'll want to show you something they ARE good at, like kissing.

Peace

i really like Adikt's neg with the tiger thing, it's funny, cute and a subconscious neg.