This is a pretty general post on a problem ive been having lately. I hope to get a lot of good feedback!

So, im 16 and in high school(10th grade) and i find that im considered fairly good looking by girls and that has led to some success. I know that social proof is the key in high school since almost everyone knows each other.

From elementary school up until about 8th grade, I was very dominant in my school environment and was "leader of men" in my tight clique. When someone would harm/bully me I would always confront them and even got in fights at school which somewhat intrigued the girls(i was a "bad boy" in their eyes). This way, I had a few girlfriends, but I was VERY nervous with hot girls(i always avoided them).

Anyways, about 1.5 years ago my longtime best friend and wingman had a falling out. The problem with this is that he would always initiate the talk with girls cos i was always too scared and he was pretty much my direct link to a big part of my social network of hot girls and "popular kids" (sorry i have to call them that).

Aside from this, about the same time, i started acting like a complete pussy (i dont even know why). I started letting people push me around and stuff because I wanted them to like me. This was the biggest mistake of all. This behavior, mixed with my natural aggresive behavior and my falling out has resulted me to fall out completely from the social hierarchy. The problem is that a lot of the hot girls in my school are always hanging out with the naturals and most of them dont like me anymore(lesson learned.)

So the question is, should I try to befriend the naturals again in hopes of getting "IN" (getting with the girls in their groups and getting invited to their parties etc.) or should I just try talking to the girls on my own? Im kind of scared/uncomfortable with talking to some of the girls cos ive known them for so long and plus there always with these other guys, that ive known but dont talk to(the naturals), so it seems out of place. Thanks everyone and feedback is appreciated!

You're value is getting smaller to them.

Don't talk about a bad past. It doesn't work. I've tried. ha

You have to be really cocky. Be the prize and don't accept most of their things.
Do the normal meta-frame actions and everything will be escalated for you.

Don't rely on your natural physical looks, all PUAs know that.

Everyone is forgetting the major importance of body language.

You have to go up to the girls, make conversation, make value of yourself, make less value of them, make connection.

You'll have the girls down at your feet if you do it right.

alright thanks man..ill just proceed with my game as usual then

ahah your right, back story really wasnt necessary im kinda embarassed now lol..sorry bout that

Don't try to mix with the "naturals". They are not naturals. They are trying to impress girls. You can do things your own way. You can be a master by yourself. You don't really need to befriend them to get connections. You can start your own super connection with skills you have as a PUA student. thats the key. they will eventually come back to you.

amen to that, good question and theres nothing to be embarrassed about. we are all here to learn

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nnn, i think that youre absolutely right.. ive started becomeing more alpha, social and friendly, and it has helped me gain the respect of alot more people than before. And thanks for the post cupid. that made me feel better.

patience is the key.
one you ruin something in highschool. either people will consider you the guy who _______ or they forget who you even are.
dont make drastic changes.
start slow by being friendly with everyone around you, such as class rooms, people you sit with at lunch, anything sports. eventually people will start to know you and you will be a friendly person.

and to be honest
dont bother with those popular girls.
they follow what other people think. and they will be laid during their highschool years and blame the naturals.

the preps (not to be labeling) and any other from of hot girls in a clique shouldnt even be part of your time.
dont date, but practice on them if you must.

Popular girls are yummy. They're just a group of 5-7 who are looked up at. DQ yourself and it'll be a true wonder, especially to them. They are either miserable, really really cool, or total fakes.
I've met a HB10 cheerleader who had a really nice family life and we hang out a lot. She's not fake. She's just naturally gorgeous even without her make-up. <--Go for these types of girls.

Don't go for the ones that have fake blonde hair and have just all these flaky thing about them. It just cries out "I want attention!!! I want to look hot!"

Also, be careful in high school. Many amogs will try to push you over or hurt you. (Unless your built like me.. haha)

Befriend the naturals. You lose nothing in doing so. Your highschool experience will only be better and by being a part of all the partying sarging will become A LOT easier. Think about it: you have PUA game while the majority of the guys at the parties rely on alcohol and Abercrombie shirts to score. You have the advantage there.

Popularity is a wall if you are going for the hotter chicks in highschool. It's just not socially acceptable for a hot popular girl to hang out with someone who's not in, even if she likes you. Her bitchy gossip queen friend will make her not like you. It's stupid, but that's reality. And yes, there are a few hot girls who aren't popular, but we all know hot=popular in highschool, so most are.

Believe it or not I think its incredibly easy to change your status in high school, I just graduated and was very unpopular in my 8th grade and freshman year then my sophomore year things got a little bit better when I decided there was no way I could impress anyone and I was just going to do my thing and screw the rest.

Come junior year I started talking with all the "popular kids" and realized most of them were actually nothing special or cool, they just talked with the other kids more often then anyone else.

In my junior year I started doing my own things appearance wise, wearing a shoelace as a belt with a funky knot to tie it, wearing plain 3$ shirts instead of the 20$ american eagle shirts, and finding shoes with funky patterns that would stand out. This is called peacocking I think? im still new to the community

Girls started to notice me because I was always talking with everyone not just the popular kids, everyone and this is significant because underneath every high school girl is fed up with the social hierarchy as you put it. and also because my style stuck out from every one elses, no one made fun of it either because after they knew I didn't care.

My senior year was the bombshell. The pinnacle of it included making out with a girl I met on a field trip and losing my virginity to her in the backseat of my car 2 days later. Getting head from a girl I work with in our walk in freezer, and sleeping with a 21 year old girl (also a co-worker) at her apartment. Not to mention the flings I had with all the "popular girls"

I didn't even go to party's, Ive gotten drunk about 3 times throughout my entire high school career and 2 of those were with just guy friends, and I never hung out with girls either, just 3 of my good friends who were all guys.

Its never to late to change your image and the key to picking up women is not being "in" with their crowd its sticking out in a good way. (not like those punks with died hair)

captivate, you know what? I'm right in the middle of changing the way i see things, like you did. I figured that it wasn't worth hanging around with people who just brought down my self-esteem, so I have a new policy that says 'I'm me, and if you don't like me, f*** you' I hope it works

This is just a general comment:

The absolute BEST way to be accepted by others is to be confident. You don't necessarily have to change anything about yourself, your philosophy, etc. You just need to be confident with yourself-- people will instinctively follow your lead, and they will realize that you don't care about being different from them.

High School girls are really easy to game if you do it right. All of the regular PUA tricks are insanely effective on them. But more important than anything, stay cool, stay cocky, stay chivalrous.

It's a fine line, and it takes a bit of practice to drill it into you, but once you have it, you'll have them all over you.

1. Stay cool. Never say 'like' or 'erm'. Never hesitate. Talk from your lungs, be clear, be confident, but don't be hyper in your talking. Whenever you're about to talk, count to 3, then talk at 50% speed, and make sure you are speaking as deep as you can without losing the 'talk from the chest' factor.

2. Stay cocky. This one is very difficult to teach. You need to have it naturally, really. Be funny. Laugh at your own expense. Push the girls around. Accuse them of hitting on you. AMOGing is a kind of sub-art of this... The main thing to remember here is this: nothing changes your frame. No insult changes your attitude. No put down makes you feel bad. Nobody except you can affect your own mood. And then, remember, the best comeback to subtle shots is to amplify it really hard. "You look tired" "No shit dude, I haven't slept in like 12 and a half years."... or... "blabla gay/[you look gay], w/e" ... "*floppy hands, talk gay* ooh yeah baby, you turn me on"

3. Stay chivalrous. This is the counterbalance to cocky. Basically, be as cocky/funny/pushy as you can be, but never lose your honor. Be gentlemanly, be chivalrous, don't put down your friends. Speak good of all around you. Don't change your opinions for others.


I'm 17, and at this point, I find 16, 17, and 18 yr olds so easy that I get 2 or 3 numbers per day, whenever I feel like gaming. And I'm not even in school.

Also, try gaming 19 and 20 yr olds to hone your skills, and then you'll find high school chicks trivial.

good luck, mate

Nice work with inner game. Wanna teach us how to keep our frame, How to be confidant, and How to use these inner game tools to help us pick up girls??

Va bro, the guys from your school may be 'Cool', but there is a whoolleee nother world around school. What if you were so god damn cool in the real world that when you came to school, it was like you were this fucking successful kid who just showed up at school because you felt like talking to people.

I am in my last year at the moment and I used to be very soft. This year, I have got all my shit in a basket and now I can clique with the biggest jock or the nerdiest dux in the school. It's just all about being that higher value guy. People can't prove that outside your school your not the cool captain of the world... unless you only hang with people inside your school.

Just walk into your school ground smiling, standing fucking straight and the first person you see as you walk in, doesn't matter who it is, say 'Hey man, how you goin...' (Even if it's a girl, calling a girl 'man' is a disqualifier). Don't even ask it as a question, you are just being social straight away and they are just there.

I like to focus more on being a awesome person with a flying nimbus then a social manipulator at 17. Your true self always shines through and if you can just talk to anyone, everyone will notice. There is no real magic pill. Just open your mouth and if anyone gives you shit, look confused.

Smile, it will confuse them.

Haha. That was such an unconstructed post.