hey guys

i pickup most of my women in nightclubs/bars. Recently as im pretty new to gaming chicks i don't know my girl friends me tell me im to aggressive.. i don't understand because all i do is say high and "shake" their hand. besides the fact that i should be day gaming(second year uni) im not sure why im having so much trouble in clubs/bars. i don't understand why i get the cold shoulder or simply just not get anywhere with women in clubs/bars. looks are not my problem, social value usually isn't my problem. im assume my problem is i pick up girls alone so often end up opening 2-4 sets alone which i suppose gives her an added opportunity to stray away with her friends.

my question is everywhere i go i read canned openers are bad but i cant seem to get anywhere with a simple "hi my name is", i can approach any girl with this line but get cold shoulder/mother hend 80% of the time. the other 10% the convo is just shit and the last 10% i get lucky. i don't want to get lucky and have to rely on looks/social value to get me girls. i want to improve my game and get girls because i fucking seduced them and they have no clue what just happened.

A- what do i say after receiving her name (i don't want a line, i'm looking for a tips/methods)
B- how to disarm mother hen

Thanks

Transition into asking her an open ended question and building commonalities or break rapport on her response to spark attraction. Do disarm the mother hen, you must befriend her ASAP. Focus on her for a bit and game her by breaking some rapport and just get her to love you. After that, she will let you have fun with the group.

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your "girlfriends" tell you your too agressive.....

reread that first off

secondly. I don't think saying hi and shaking hands isn't to aggresive at all. unless your taking up to much of their personal space from the get go. you could be touching to fast or swooping to seduction to fast I dont know but the hi (shake hands) isnt what they are talking about

[quote="Zirk13"]your "girlfriends" tell you your too agressive.....

my girls who are friends.

Don't open with this. It's awkward hence your responses. Open situationally. Learn how to gab. Speak in a flirtatious manner. You are the prize.

On a night out, in a high energy environment, what you say isn't as important as how you say it.

Be interesting. Be funny. Make her laugh with your opener if possible.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, be in a good mood. People will feed off your energy, and if you have good energy, and are enjoying yourself, people will sense it and want to enjoy your energy. Don't be afraid to touch (start with non-sexual areas like shoulder and back first).

Here's what I think is wrong: your "hi" opener is totally out of context.

See, if you use this in uni, whether in class or around campus, most girls will not be intimidated - college is supposed to be social.

Maybe in a club it looks pushy? I don't know. I'm not very good at gaming in clubs. But take heed of the advice you got, context is key.

Cheers

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