Hey guys i am mongolian guy whos 6'0 ft and really confident and outgoing. however when i go out to girls and approach with good amount of energy and confidence, i just dont get any attention but my shy, caucasian friends who is very shy and not outgoing gets more girls than me. i mean i can approach lots of girls without feeling down at all but when i try 10 times and they try few times, they get more successful than me. at first i was about not getting girls and improving but now i am at the point, to find that it is impossible for oriental, asian guy to pick up white hbs? i need help badly!!!

Why do you immediately assume that they are judging you based on race? Simple. Because you have a complex about your race. You have already concluded your white friends will be more successful than you. You have neglected to examine other possible problems.

I'm not saying race has nothing to do with it. I'm saying, you must not fixate on your race.

If you want my honest opinion, I assume that most Asian guys study hard and have successful careers, then do it the classy way and marry a nice girl they meet through work/church/family friends. Didn't know Asian guys were also picking up random girls. In other words, I actually assume that the typical Asian guy is more conservative and level-headed. But that's just my first thought, you don't have to take it personally.

Yeah i did not grow up in asia! so my personality is very western but its just the looks! i have recieved racial slurs few times but kept strong! any advice where i can use this into my advantage?

Of course it matter, anyone who claims otherwise is just political correct brainwashed liberal. People tend to like to socialize with their own kind more. That does not mean you won't find someone who likes other races more, but it is just harder.

Ignore the above post. It does matter in the world, but it does NOT matter when it comes to YOU specifically.

Let me give you an example of what I mean.

I'm caucasian, and when we're talking about women with friends,
we hardly ever talk about race of the girl. We talk about her legs, her butt, her lips, mouth etc.

We can talk about which race we like "technically", sure.

We can talk about we'd preffer to date
white/brown/black/asian women or whatever.

BUT, when we're sitting in a bar, and a hottie walks by us with an amazing body, we FORGET about her
race or anything else.

So if you want to talk generally, asian guys are less attractive, this could be true in the context of
a conversation.

But when it comes to YOU and a girl that you're talking to, it has NO weight what so ever.

Ask yourself, what do women find attractive about a guy?

> Height?
> Skin color?
> Race?
> Money?

I'm not arguing that those elements can help, but they are NOT the KEY when it comes to
will the girl like you and be with you, or not.

What IS the KEY is a thing that every single woman talks about, and that is your CONFIDENCE.

If you can develop and then show your confidence, when a woman see's you, that will be
the equivalent of you seeing a nice rack on a girl.

It's irresistable.

Right now, it is your INSECURITIES that are the reason why women don't fall for you. And even though
your friend is shy and quiet, he probably doesn't have a race complex himself.

You can not run away from how you feel about yourself, and you will project that to other ppl.

So if you have a complex, work on it.

Bring yourself to feeling AWESOME about yourself. Deal with your insecurities, and the sky is your limit.

Good luck!

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Dude,

I have a friend that is just like your friend. He's quiet, he sits around at bars not talking to anyone and looking stupid, biting his nails. But he'll still get approached by a girl who is interested in him every time. Looking at it non-egotistically, he and I are similarly attractive.

The problem with being that kind of guy is you kind of have to take what comes your way on account of not having the balls or wherewithal to approach people you're interested in.

I'm guessing its not a race thing. I'm thinking your approach seems to desperate, too try-hard. I say that because I used to be that way. Recently. I used to kind of hype myself up to approach people, pressure myself to do it. Try going out, only approaching when you feel comfortable or find someone interesting. You'll get better results I think. Then, you'll start feeling comfortable approaching and it won't be a big deal, and you'll be able to build attraction with anyone while your quiet friend jerks off in the corner.

Good luck!

Oh and PS: Race does matter. Black girls are so much hotter than white girls in almost every way IMO. And they're less uptight.

This is the correct answer. If you're in America, white guys will have a much easier time picking up girls. Just do a trial on Tinder... use a model indian guy and an average looking white guy and see who gets more matches.

But you shouldn't worry about it, just accept it.. accept that you have to work a little harder and that your game has to be on point. You will meet some girls who are specifically into asian/indian, but they are not easy to find. But at the end of the day, personality and confidence will take you far. When you approach girls and talk to them, make them realize you're special, make them laugh and trump their expectation of what a person of your color is supposed to be like. You can't blame girls for having stereotypes, but you can still win them over. I'm brown so trust me I know lol

PS- this also goes with attractive guys vs regular guys... it doesn't matter if the attractive guy is shy and quite, he will be approached and get more opportunities than the regular guy. This is how it is for everyone, even girls... so you gotta stop worrying about it and learn to play with the cards you are given

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if race mattered then i would be screwed lmfao, im a black guy who dresses in a gq style (blazer tie etc) and i get many white girls, most come up to me and compliment the way i dress or something..............the only place where race matter is online or deep in the south (where i live lmfao) blakc guys and asian guys have it REALLY hard online even from their own rrace should be the last thing you look at, make sure you don't give off that asshole dick vibe

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Dude people saying that race has a huge effect on whether you can pick up a girl or not is complete bullshit. ESPECIALLY ASIAN GUYS. One of the best dating coaches to ever walk the earth is named Dr. David Tan. He is a fvcking legend and he’s asian. It doesn’t affect your game bro, and if you go into interactions with the mindset that it does, then it will. Keep positive thoughts. You’re the shit and you know it, plain and simple.

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Maybe you aren't their type and that's all there is to it. Just because you're 6ft tall means jack shit. Girls have an idea what they want and so far it's not you. I doubt you'd go for a big, fat chick. It's the same deal man.

Its funny cos I have opposite problem, I find oriental girls impossible to crack, also have friends who say there is no point gaming oriental girls cos they are too conservative and you need to date them for weeks/months before getting action. Also, I have a oriental mate who is UK born and bred and says he gets plenty of attention from oriental girls but he prefers white girls so he ends up getting off with ugly white girls rather than try with hot asian girls. I also know there are all these young gamer girls into all things oriental and would probably prefer a shy oriental guy to some typically british guy that just looks oriental.
Moral of the story is maybe you have to be more open minded and increase your target field rather than just go after typical snobby white girls you see on a night out..

my question is did you look on a pick up site just to ask that question? no offense

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Yes. To some. But it shouldn't matter to you. Because no harm trying. Open them, if they don't like you because of whatever reason, than we'll now you know. Go hit on the billion other women on the planet.

Race is just one thing they could dislike you for. Amongst a million other things. Height, eye colour, hair length, personality, etc ... It's not your job to care about these things, focus on what you can control, and forget what you can't.

The game is hard enough as it is.

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