I did a few approaches last night
And they all went no where.
I either didn't get past A1 at all;
Or I got into A2 and only got a few IOIs;
Then I just lost all the momentum.

I approach a seated 2-set and ask if I can take a seat for a second, they say yes.
Me:Hey, I've only got a second, then I gotta go find my friends, but I'm having a bit of a moral dilemma. Basically, which grade did girls start being slutty?
Girls:[They laugh, or say it's a random question and deliberate with each other and then answer me.]
Me:Basically, I'm asking because my little brother is middle school and he's just starting really talking to girls. And he's got this one sending him suggestive pictures, doing poses and she sent him a pic or her ass in a g-string! I mean where does a 13 year old even get a g-string?! I told him she probably made it out of shoe laces!
Girls:They laugh, one girl mentions she's got a little sister she's protective of, we talk a little about how kids are 'maturing' faster.
Me: So how do you two know each other?
Girls: About a year, blah blah blah
Me: [Run best friends routine]
Girls: [They kind of liked it, but you could tell they weren't really best friends.]
Me: [Runs the burning man story from MM, except altered to an event I actually went to.] (This story hasn't gone over well in the 4/5 groups I used it on and I'm thinking about dropping it.)
Girls: They didn't really laugh at the end of it
Me: I go on into another concert based story, about a girl I knew from school that I found in the crowd, she was afraid to crowd surf and I told the guy behind her to pick her up and she freaked out. Then when she came back around she wanted to go again.
Girls: This time they laugh more
Me: [Look at the target and signal to her that she's got something in her eye]
Target: Is it make up? [wipes face]
Me: No, it's just an eye crustie.

From there it basically just went into normal conversation and my friend joined in. (Not as a wing man.) and about 10 minutes later they 'had to go to the bathroom'. During that time I asked the target if she believed in 'energy' and if she was spiritual as opposed to religious, she wasn't really biting (Which is rare, but I had been going to a more 'rave' type club and this definitely was not that place.) And then my friend tries to bust me on not really believing in 'spiritual' stuff. (Dick move, but he got me high as shit later, so maybe I'll let it slide for now.)


Another girl I found that night, I got a lot of IOIs and kino, but she left too. (She was already really drunk and it was only 9:30, and she had an abusive boyfriend at home. I wasn't going to take advantage of all that.)


Another -standing- two set.
Me: Little brother routine.
Girls: Go a long with it at first, eventually one is like "You're not really here just to ask us about that are you?"
Me: [Idioti- Instinctive response] Well I was going to ask you for a cigarette.
Girls: [Give me a cigarette]
Me: [Have one of them hold my drink while I light it, neg her for thinking about drinking it. Then I go into the burning man story.]
Girls: Wow, that sounds really weird.
Me: [Talk about the time I saw a bear in the woods on my step dad's property]
*About this time two guys wonder up like they could have been their boyfriends, I continue the story but start talking to one of the guys. 'I was just telling them about the bear I saw' (I didn't want to recap, but up I was able to keep the story going without leaving them in the dark about what I'm talking about.)
Me: Shake hands with the guys and do a little banter, they all seem cool and not possessive. One guy leaves after a minute and I ask the remaining guy and the two girls how they all knew each other. We all just have regular conversation for about 3 minutes and then they all leave.



Anyway, all my approach stories end with 'And then they had to 'go to the bathroom' or they returned to another group. I know a few of the mistakes I made, but I wanted to get some community feed back.

Seems like a lot of work and a lot of performing. Could try to approach alone girls or bored looking girls.

Also, know your end-objective. If you're looking for same night lays your tactics are going to need to be much different than if you are looking for kiss/# closes.

A set doesn't need to be very long for you to pull a #. A couple of minutes, and then you've got to run but want to continue it sometime, hence the reason for the #.

Pheewww, I got tired just reading all of that convo(you must've been exhausted at end of the evening).

You practicing classic Mystery Method(even his stories word for word) which is a rare find in these days

of Daygame and Direct game and such.

Now the style that anyone chooses to game with is not the pathway to booty galore, it only serves as a platform to broadcast who you are as a guy who wants a result(pleasurable connections with attractive women).

Also, as the one girl asked you(which is the best feedback you could have hoped for) - this isn't the real reason why you telling us this, right?

When you go speak to any girl you are not familiar with, within the first 5 minutes of you talking to her, she knows exactly what your agenda is(pick up chicks).

Now consider this, if you know you there to score and they know you there to score and some of them are open to score - should your conversation be about crowd surfing and bears in the hoods or more moving towards what is actually on your mind?

Also, your stories reveal zero about you(which is great cause when they reject you, you can always say it was the material they rejected and not you personally).

Here is the honest truth - you can't sleep with every girl in the world(it's exhausting), you don't want to sleep with all the girls in the world(some are really not worth your time) and you don't have to sleep with every girl in the world(you are not a failure if you don't approach every hot girl within sight).

Hopefully this will unburden you as it did me, what you want is girls who share your common interests and lifestyle:

- Make a list of things or activities that you like to do
- Think of all the fun and funny things that happened while you were doing these things or activities
- screen girls with this in mind and if they don't match your criteria, move on to the next

If you follow this approach, you won't struggle with coming up with material cause it's straight from your life and you won't have do all the talking cause the girl(who shares the same interest as you) will share her funny stories with you and it will feel NATURAL(like its suppose to feel) and normal as suppose to gimmicky.

Compatibility is half the battle(people who like the same things you like), chemistry is the other half.

Chemistry without compatibility is not sustainable.

Compatibility without chemistry is friendship.

Compatibility plus chemistry is the ideal.

hers the thing, you seem to be waiting on lots of ioi's from the girls some girls dont give ioi's, it seems like what the above poster said is your just entertaining. you seem to have been doing great. nut your not picking a target. it feels like your not letting the girls know in anyway that your interested in them and just being some random guy whose just talking to people.

openers and routines just gain a person interest in talking to you. you still have to give attention to who you want

I got the same impression. "Game" is fine as long as there's an outcome that's being driven at. I got the sense these sets weren't outcome dependent.
This is exactly right in my view.

I don't see how those are consistently bad not liked you got slapped or jumped, your mind set isn't great the way your looking at it isn't great it could be better which helps your game. your looking for reactions to much instead of having a good time and enjoying your self and making a fun and rewarding connection with women for both parties , and a lot of it takes practice where you get into your zone and groove of improvisation where you don't fall off after you use up all your material. try to have a end game and understand logistics so you can create a natural flow into your wanted results.