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 Post subject: What the next step?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:47 am 
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Hey everyone. I have recently committed to Simple30 b/c lets face it, as those of us who have terrible approach anxiety and trouble talking to women know, we need to first admit we have a problem and take charge of it. I was doing that famously last week.

Last week I was super stressed out b/c of midterms and other work I had to do to keep my business afloat. With the subscription and I guess some sort of f*** it attitude that was spurred in me, I just decided to go with it completing the challenges at my own pace.

The first two challenges became easy. I was beginning to learn to love rejection. If I got rejected, in the back of my mind I knew I still had a challenge to complete and I wasn't going home until I complete my mission. Then day 3 came along last Friday. I tried to approach outside of school because I had school related business to attend to off campus. While out I saw a two cute girls one after the other about 5 minutes apart on my lunch break but I didn't approach and attempt the challenge. Instead I approached some guy at a park who was working out. I love the gym and working out so I sparked a conversation with him immediately about how to up his game. I left my left that day and went home. On my way back I approached a woman (not about the challenge - unrelated) and got rejected. It was actually hilarious.

So I was there thinking well even though I didn't complete the challenges I am approaching people and it is not even that hard. This program is working. I don't have a car and live in the burbs so I pretty much stay inside a lot. Last Saturday I even went out looking to achieve my challenge at night which is something I don't do much, especially when I'm in school. So I was ecstatic with what was happening. I saw probably like 4 girls the entire night. One was around my age, the rest were jailbait but I didn't approach. I didn't know how to go about it and I almost felt no drive to do it.

Monday rolled around and the same thing happened. I approach at school all the time and nothing. I literally passed probably 12 or so cute girls and I couldn't approach them. All of a sudden I became depressed and started to feel really down. I had an appointment with my teacher at 6pm that night. I was walking past our department and toward the other end of the hallway. I saw this cute indian girl sitting by herself. I didn't have the balls to talk to her so I went into the stairwell to reevaluate my situation. Girl sitting alone, ask for a picture, talk to her, convince her to give you her number. Just as I was about to walk out of the stairwell a group of younger kids walked right by the girl (she was sitting next to vending machines) and start pillaging the vending machines. I walked past her and she looked and gave me a look like she almost wanted me to talk to her. I kept walking and went to my appointment.

It is now Tuesday and I am still stuck on this challenge and don't know how to get my butt in gear to go talk to them. Last week I was talking to girls even though I was nervous but I was getting things done. Now I feel useless. I feel a huge problem I have is that I find myself not approaching every girl but instead approaching girls who are by themselves (whether they are really hot or not).

Does anyone have advice on what I can about approaching when others are around (How to get over that)? Does anyone have any advice about make this challenge easier for myself and how to make it less of a chore?


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 Post subject: Re: What the next step?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:32 pm 
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Basically from my knowledge you have to enjoy talking to women. Focus on what makes you an extrovert person (thats if your introverted). If your a social person you should have no problems reaping all the awards of a pua. My numbers consists of direct approaches. The reason for my confidence is that i know they have not been approached by a man within that month or even that year! (Other then clubbing). Therefore you have a solid 50/50 chance you will get her, know what I'm saying. Once you get 3 numbers from direct you realuse any rejection after that you have reached the first step you just need tweaking for a consistent number flow. Imagine you were inlove with a girl but one day a random girl had the urge to introduce herself to you, you would be overwhelmed. No different with women! They think just like men. Good luck mate !

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 Post subject: Re: What the next step?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:37 pm 
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I do not know about the Simple30 tasks, but loving rejection sounds wrong to me. Also, having to love to talk to women isn't a prerequisite for getting women either (I hate talking to strange woman). It just helps alot. I have approach anxiety. I am alot older than you i'm sure. I can tell you that no matter how successful you are it never really goes away. You do however, learn to move past it and deal with it. My personal philosophy is that if, i do not talk to the woman, i do not get the woman. If i do talk to the woman and fail, then i do not get the woman. So the worst case scenario is that i do not get the woman. So just just try to approach. I do not embrace failure because that leads to depression, frustration, getting burned out, etc. That's why, I do not approve of mass approaching for everyone. As a first step to get your feet wet it is fine. But very quickly you want to calibrate and have success because that breeds more success.

To answer your question. The best way to approach a group are with openers, even old canned openers. Direct is fine but not always with groups as it will be difficult to isolate and/or win her friends over to your side. I will give you two things to try though. 1 will be direct 2 will be indirect.
1) Direct (really simple but you will be playing mass approach numbers game more).
a) "Hi, how are you? I'm ____. I can't stay long but would just like to know if we can talk later?" number close and call or text later that same day.
b) "Let me ask you a question?" "How do you approach a total stranger that you want to talk to?" If she acts curious, just tell her "Because I would like to talk to you". Get her number and blah blah.

2) Indirect (takes longer but has a longer lasting effect so not as many flakes)
a) I have a question. This is really important and can't figure it out. (Works very well with a group). Flossing...Before or after you brush. (this is an old canned opener but i've used it to success many many times).

i) Transition the conversation to getting to know each other. Try not to forget names but pay close attention to what your target says. Come up with a false time constraint and isolate her for a number close. "I have to go in a second but do you girls mind if i talk to [your target's name] here." Transition, to direct game and get some type of close whether it be number or kiss depending on how much interest you developed.

b) Do you think tattoos make a guy look more macho? (Doesn't matter whether you have one or not everyone will have a different opinion. It will also allow you to transition into the woman's romantic interest)
Repeat Transition steps above.

Just used those, until you get better ones more suited to you. You will also learn if you like Direct or Indirect better. Most importantly do NOT try to think of the perfect thing to say. just say "Hi, my name is..." if all else fails.


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