Is Direct Game Better Then Indirect Game?



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:45 pm 
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I'm 19, and I see at least one cute girl walking around college campus every day. Would it be better to approach her directly like "Hey I saw you walking and I had to stop you because I think your adorable" or Indirectly like "Hey let me get your opinion on something, would you ever break up over a text?".

Further more, Is it true that to get good with pickup you just need to man up and face your fear of rejection directly? and to do that wouldn't you just go direct since it take's more balls? I'm just starting out with this and I want to get some advice on taking the right path for pickup, thanks.


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If you are approaching at your school then go indirect. You don't want to gain a bad reputation for harassing women in campus.

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In sports there are finesse players and power players. In music there are smooth jazz and hard rock players. You can find an analogy for that in anything. And the same goes here.

Indirect and direct can both work for people. The question is which one are you?

A heavy metal guy may not be able to pull off smooth jazz and vice versa (though some of the best can do both). You have to know yourself to answer this question. Or you can try them out and see what works for you.

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If you want to play it safe, go indirect but not with an opinion opener...

You are in a campus you'll see her again many times right? Next time you see her say something like: "Hey do you know where can I find the lecture room A24?"
Pay attention to her directions, say thank you and leave in the direction she told you...

Next day when you see her say: "Hey what's up?"
See if she wants to continue talking or just replies politely and goes away... do not push the interaction...

Next time when you see her you can add: "Hey are you stalking on me?"
My guess is that by now she will already be ready to start a conversation, where you can ask her name, what she is studying, favorite color, etc. If it is not ready yet... continue greeting her, soon enough she will open.


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I'm 19, and I see at least one cute girl walking around college campus every day. Would it be better to approach her directly like "Hey I saw you walking and I had to stop you because I think your adorable" or Indirectly like "Hey let me get your opinion on something, would you ever break up over a text?".

Further more, Is it true that to get good with pickup you just need to man up and face your fear of rejection directly? and to do that wouldn't you just go direct since it take's more balls? I'm just starting out with this and I want to get some advice on taking the right path for pickup, thanks.
ever thought of walking up to a girl and going "Hey quick question, this is kinda random, but would you rather have a guy approach you directly or indirectly?"

Most girls won't catch immediately, so then you explain :

"Well direct is like 'hi you're kinda cute' and indirectly is more like 'do you know where the Uni-Library is?'"

Whatever her answer is, she'd be telling you exactly how she wants to be picked up and what not.
If she says "I like when guys go indirect,"
Me "ok well I need your opinion on something..." and just go into another indirect opener.
If she say "I like guys that are direct."
Me "well you are absolutely adorable and I wanted to see if there's more to you than just your looks,"
I got it from Artisan, and I'm planning to do a survey around campus with it. I'm even gonna interview guys and ask how they go about it whenever they approach.

Done right you're gauranteed to get a smile, make her day and you can just proceed from there.

Anyway I like both Indirect and Direct game. the type of game i spit depends on my mood and the setting. and even when you go indirect make sure you make your statement of intent early on otherwise you're just wasting your time, oh and her time. Test them both and see what type of game suits you best.

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Any open is like a cold bucket of water splashed in the girls face. Because all of a sudden there is a stranger in front of her and he's either telling her something that will make her blush, or he's asking her some random question which puts her on the spot. Direct openers can go wrong because it'll prompt the girl to put up a bitch shield, and indirect openers can go wrong because they'll just confuse or bore the girl, and make you seem disingenuous.

You can mitigate the negative aspects of both a direct and indirect open by asking a casual question which doesn't betray your true intent, which is to pick her up. Walk up and ask her if she has any gum. Sounds dumb, but that will immediately remove all pressure from the situation. You can ask her for the time as well. You can then parlay that into the rest of your routine. She looks at her watch and tells you the time, then you say "Oh, that's a cool watch, where'd you get it?" You can even go direct at that point and tell her you like some attractive feature on her that you just noticed now that you are close up. This approach kind of makes it seem like you were just a random stranger asking for a little help, but then realized the person you were talking to is someone worth getting to know.

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Wtf is up with this 'adorable' word?

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LOL, "adorable." Sinn uses it in his direct day game openers. I like "cute" better, but my direct game is a train wreck.

TO THE OP: Opinion openers actually work GREAT in day game. It sounds weird on paper, and for some reason it's cool to hate on them, but the only real "girlfriend" I've gotten from gaming was by approaching with an opinion opener in broad daylight. It's definitely a better start than asking for directions, etc; if you're too indirect, you essentially have to open twice, because after they give you directions/the time / etc, they're expecting the conversation to end, and it's awkward to manufacture a reason to keep talking. (FYI, the way my daygame ladyfriend happened was that I approached a girl who was working at the mall and asked whether girls thought chess was sexy. Then I did a generic stack forward from there to number close, then we started dating.)


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Ninja knows what he's talking about. If you g in under the radr by asking an innocent question, then in those first quick moments, there will be no presure on her part. From there, you can either continue to go indirect for a bit, (Like the watch thing that Ninja stated) or you can go direct, which is probably what I would do.

"Ya know what I just noticed??"
HB: What?
"Your eyes/lips/beauty marks/teeth/whatever are quite lovely."

Then you just take it from there. Administer kino almost immediately after at this point though. You have to be sexual and show her that you're not afraid to be that way. Women like guys that arent afraid to show they like them.

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I say this in every topic, but rule of thumb that works for me: If you get a nonverbal IOI from her prior to the approach, go direct. If you don't, go indirect.


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As some have mentioned. It depends. Sometimes direct is better, other time indirect. We can't answer this for you, it takes practice to learn how to get a sense of whether or not a direct or indirect opener will work best for the particular situation you are in.

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