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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:02 pm 
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Hey guys,

today I was sitting in the park, doing some notes, when I noticed one HB9 sitting maybe 10 meters from me. I never did a daygame in my life, but this gave me an opportunity to think psychologically about my own fears. So I was analyzing, what do I feel, why am I afraid to approach her. Appart from a lot of stuff I figured out, I also got an idea about a good opener.

I was trying to figure out some good opener, but all of them seemed to me stupid and artificial. I couldn´t fake it and pretend I am really curious about whatever thing I would ask her. And then the idea came. I read David X´s book about honesty and respect and all this brutal directness he is doing. I got an idea just to come to her and say:
"Hey, can I ask you something?"
"Last 3 minutes as I was writing my stuff to school, I was thinking, what is a good start of conversation to a complete stranger, who I find attractive, so that it is completely natural and funny at the same time. Everything sounded lame or artificial to me, so I came to ask you. What do you think? (Or what do you think is a good start)?"

It gives her subconscious message that I find her attractive, I recognise her fear that I am a complete stranger and say it out loud so that she knows we are on the same page, I am honest and she gives me advice herself what would be a good way to approach her which will say a lot about her personality. Then I could develop it further later.

Of course, when I was almost about to come to her, her phone rang, she answered it and walked away. Anyway, good experience for the next time.

So what do you guys think about the opener? Sorry if it already exists and this is a repost.


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Hey guys,

today I was sitting in the park, doing some notes, when I noticed one HB9 sitting maybe 10 meters from me. I never did a daygame in my life, but this gave me an opportunity to think psychologically about my own fears. So I was analyzing, what do I feel, why am I afraid to approach her. Appart from a lot of stuff I figured out, I also got an idea about a good opener.

I was trying to figure out some good opener, but all of them seemed to me stupid and artificial. I couldn´t fake it and pretend I am really curious about whatever thing I would ask her. And then the idea came. I read David X´s book about honesty and respect and all this brutal directness he is doing. I got an idea just to come to her and say:
"Hey, can I ask you something?"
"Last 3 minutes as I was writing my stuff to school, I was thinking, what is a good start of conversation to a complete stranger, who I find attractive, so that it is completely natural and funny at the same time. Everything sounded lame or artificial to me, so I came to ask you. What do you think? (Or what do you think is a good start)?"

It gives her subconscious message that I find her attractive, I recognise her fear that I am a complete stranger and say it out loud so that she knows we are on the same page, I am honest and she gives me advice herself what would be a good way to approach her which will say a lot about her personality. Then I could develop it further later.

Of course, when I was almost about to come to her, her phone rang, she answered it and walked away. Anyway, good experience for the next time.

So what do you guys think about the opener? Sorry if it already exists and this is a repost.
So you actually used the opener or you were just thinking of saying it? Lol don't wait so long man. Lingering= Bad.

Personally, I think its too long of an opener and its not very interesting. It's not going to hold her attention and it's really not giving her a choice of answers (hence the purpose of an opinion opener...) all a girl would probably say to that, especially if your delivery isn't PERFECT, is "Ummm... I don't know" Try it if you would like... Try it 10 times and prove me wrong.

You are over thinking your opener. What you say as an opener really doesn't matter. It is designed to do just that. Open. You are not going to get laid or get a girlfriend because of a perfect opener nor will a girl be in bed with you, ready to have sex with you and say "Well.... Your opener... It wasn't situational enough. Sorry, have a nice night!"

Just start talking dude..


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