Maybe it's my age, but I find I just don't know what to say when doing an approach, especially in the case of random or cold approaches in public. I love to talk, but I kind of draw a blank when it comes to bothering women in public. Plus, there's the whole age thing too, I don't like older women, despite my age, but I never know how old anyone is anymore (you can't tell in this day and age) and hitting on 17 year olds never seems like a good idea...

Any advice? I see hot women/girls everywhere... I mean everywhere; the mall, the grocery store, schools, bars, churches, on the street. But they're there and I'm here. Bridging that uncrossable gap is the obstacle I have to overcome somehow... Thoughts, people?

I had the same problem. The first thing to do is determine the minimum age that you would hook up with. For me that is 18, but older guys often want older women. I have a wing who won't go for girls under 22. The next thing is to determine what age she has to look like in order for you to approach. Obviously you shouldn't ever approach under aged girls, but sometimes a really young looking girl might be in her 20s. I opened a set that I though might be in highschool still and the girls were actually like 24. You can't tell sometimes, and you certainly don't want to pass up on viable opportunities by incorrectly underestimating their age. The other day I opened a two set and the girls were tall but were only 18. I'm in my 30s. That wasn't ideal for me, but I still number closed one of them for good measure. Hopefully that helps to address your age issues.

As far as how to open sets...that is the age old question. Direct or indirect? Opinion opener or attention snap? Routine or natural? That's all a matter of preference and is often situational. More and more I'm inclined to think the open doesn't matter so just blurt something out and get rolling. Be funny and energetic, not creepy and austere. From there, it's all about your personal style and how you express your inner game.

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“Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'!” ~Audrey Hepburn

You don't have to think too much about openers, cause this will lead to mental masturbation which is not productive for sarging.

When you see a girl you like, open her with something she has never heard before.

I've already opened girls with "What's your shoe size", then I tell her I work in a fashion shop and that I have to be able to determine a shoe size just by looking at someone's shoes. From that moment on just go with the flow.

I sometimes open blonde girls with the 'swedish blonde opener'. When I see a hot blonde chick I ask her if she's swedish. If she says yes, fine. I'll go with the flow.
If she says no, I tell her that a friend told me all swedish girls are blonde. I realise this opener may sound stupid but it works. I never had a crash and burn with this one. Only really nice interactions.

I would advice you to read material from sixtyyearsofchallenge. He talks about the mindset you should have when you open. I do think gaming and opening is more about the mindset than the words.

As an aside LemonsieurLucien, my sister is blond and our great-grand parents were from Sweeden. I suppose that your open would at least start up a good conversation with someone like her, though not being a completely accurate assumption. But that's the thing about assumptive openings. You cold read, and hopefully as you get better you start getting closer to guessing right. Then you come across as knowledgeable and interesting, if nothing else. I don't know how the fuck my wing did it, but the first day he met me he used me as an example for assumptive openings and said that I look like I might be a pirate on the weekends. Oddly enough, I used to do pirate cosplay on the weekends. Go figure.

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“Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'!” ~Audrey Hepburn

It sounds stupid, but I feel kind of guilty if I hit on girls too young. I don't mean underage, but someone like 10 years younger than me, like 18 or 19. I feel like a dirty old man hitting on them, even though I probably don't look my age. It's a problem.

Its not your age dont worry. Check the link in my signature.

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Nathan Griffin

IMO, thats why men are getting ED and all those other problems, their wife is the same age as them! Get younger girls. You're 40? she should be 20's-32 tops. You're 30's? same thing.

I also have nothing to say, I am honest and only want LTR/FB.... I am not "boyfriend/husband" material. I suck at conversations with women, trying to improve the last few months and I have come long ways. Talked to a 9, gotten an 8's number, and some other small improvments. I learned that I am really no longer attracted to girls under 8's. I find it hard, and disapointing to try. I know they can't help it, but I just find women boring.

Lately what I been doing has earned me social proof status, one year ago I would just sit on a lump on a log hoping women approach me. Today I get out and approach a few women each week. With this power of social proof still hasn't given me "women pawing at me" you still have to work at it, but women do notice you more, and you make more friends.


I don't have AA, my friend does, and I have tried to help him overcome it. He is funny though, he says I am "cool" because I don't get AA, and he was telling his friends about me. They wanted to learn more. I get complimented by guys I know I am "cool" around women and good body language. Just I suck with conversations. You know what I mean?

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing. Formally newpua2012, lost my pw