hey this is a bit of a learn from my mistakes post. But tonight i aproached a set of three in a bar on a pretty quite night which was ment to be rammed. My opener went well even if it was a bit afc, but i let myself down, as firstly two of the girls were facing away from me while my target was sitting and facing me.

me: 'hey is it always this dead in here, I thought it was ment to be rammed.'

hb: 'it depends but ... bar is usally full tonight'

and so on... but the problem was that i hadn't given myself a time constaraint, used my neg way to soon and worst of all i was trying to train up a guy whos a complete beginer and struggles to converse with strangers. So as my midgame tends to suck without a wing the chatup fell apart and the fmog completely frezed me out. and as i had no wing to talk to show that i was not bothered about talking to her i ended up standing there like a bit of a tit, which i havenever had a problem with untill tonight.
so... I don't really know what im asking for here, but if any ones got some tips that aren't completely afc i'd love to hear them, especially in regard to sarging alone as i exspect it will be a while before my friend is confident enough to wing me.

Give yourself respect for trying in the first place, try again next time with an opener that will get more interested conversation started.