I am inclined to try Sinn's 30 second number close (reproduced below for reference). Has anyone tried it (10+ approaches)? If so, please tell me a little about the context. IE, your looks, the environment, etc.

The reason I ask is, day game blow-outs can really be pretty embarrassing. I've never used or seen anyone use this specific routine. Sinn himself says it works less than 70% of the time (and he's the master). I am hesitant to try it without hearing some real world experiences.

(On paper, it sounds perfect; you could do 10 approaches in an hour, get 5 numbers, and get one date. In reality, I'm worried that it might just be a guaranteed blow-out for a scrawny, nervous guy like me.)

Step 1: Pacing statement (ex: "Hey, I know this is really random.")
Step 2: Direct opener (ex: "But I noticed you from across the street and
knew I had to introduce myself or I'd be kicking myself for it all day. I'm Jon.") OR, ("...and I knew that if I didn't come over here and hit on you inappropriately in public tllat I wouldn't get another chance. I'm Jon.")
Step 3: She should be stunned
Step 4: Big qualification
Step 5: Get number
Example:
"I only have a minute, I have to get to a meeting, but I think you're adorable and had to come introduce myself. Can we exchange phone numbers? If we like each other on the phone maybe we can meet up later."

This seems pretty easy and simple , I'm going to try this tomorrow at school

Qualification? Can you be more specific? dhv story?

I think it might work. Only I'm not nice enough for it to really fit my personality but I might try anyway if it works well.

I wouldn't mind cutting the time down when acquiring some digits.

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If you do try it, please report back. My direct approaches have all been disastrous, so I'm hesitant to try this unless someone else can actually report success with it.

(Qualification = What's the coolest thing about you, are you adventurous, etc. A question to make the girl tell you why you SHOULD be attracted to her.)

I'll try it when I get the chance. I gotta crash now was up late working on some shit.

Here is something I started out with for my daygame back in the day. I fall back on it every once in awhile when I am feeling too lazy to make rapport. Works decently.

Redsky's quick number close:

I started out just saying, "excuse me."

If they stopped then I would say, "I think you're cute, do you wanna get coffee sometime?"

If they said yes I would ask, "Ok, what's your number?"

Then I'd tell her my name("I'm -so and so-.") and get her's, along with the number.

If she said, " let me get yours." Then I would say, "I honestly think it's the guys responsibility to call the girl. If you're not interested then just tell me."

After I got it, I would say, "Alright, I gotta meet up with some friends but I'll hit you up later."

It works decently. It's pretty direct, short, simple and you sound like a gentleman.

The worst she can say is no.

Good luck.

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thanks!!

By "works alright," what would you guess is the success ratio? Like 10%, 50%, etc? How many approaches have you done with it? And are the girls you're approaching "in your league" or "out of your league?"

Be honest

This def won't work w ur avg chic. There's no comfort w it, this make you come off like a serial killer.

the ''success ratio'' is irrelevant, you want girls that are into you, you can improve how many numbers you get, but then you will just be getting more numbers from girls who are not as interested in you, but rather just impressed by your social skills, you want the numbers to lead to something, so cutting back on the time wasters is best rather then trying to add more time wasters to your numbers pool, it may sound sort of weird to you, but the less girls you get numbers from and the more you polarize and weed out the girls that are just utterly interested into the pipeline the better

because the numbers you do get, are more likely to lead into something, try less hard, and approach more girls, the girls that reciprocate follow up on them and set up the logistics and escalate, more girls, rather then more effort

also, the physical attractiveness of the girl is fairly irrelevant, they are people, if all you want is hotties, then just step up to the hotties, simple as that, you will eventually improve, a girl you perceive to be a 10/10 will find you just as attractive as a girl you perceive to be a 2/10, the only difference is the girl you find to be immensely physically attractive may have more options and get more attention from men compared to the girl you don't, thus her self esteem may be higher and she might be more indifferent to the idea of male attention

the sooner you stop caring about ''success rate'' and start being more concerned with reaching a goal (sex with a hottie) the quicker you will reach that goal, what ever it takes, less caring about specifics, more giving it your best effort with every girl that interests you

Exactly, couldn't say it better myself.

Always approach the hottest girls you see. I've got numbers in crowded places where I was back to back and banged the girl a week later. I've also fucked some that same day. Doesn't matter if you think they are out of your league. The key is to not give a fuck.

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Blatant obfuscation.

what is there to obfuscated about?

Just go up to a chick and try it. I have two hot girlfriends and bang 2-3 new HB8's and above each week, because of this little number close. So quit making excuses and just do it.

Don't get frustrated if you get rejected either, because there is a hot flight attendant, that's extremely horny and craving dicksdicksdicks. So go out there and get her to sit on it.

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Thanks, sincerely. I was accusing y'all guys of obfuscation for dodging the question of success rate

I will try it, starting tomorrow morning. The reason I ask is that I find day game approaches a lot more intimidating; I was trying to get a sense of how many approaches I'd have to do before getting a sense that I was "doing it right" or "doing it wrong."

Success rate depends on the person. Lots of factors, if you look like a good guy, or come off too cocky, if the girl's horny or attracted to you, If you look rugged or high class, how comfortable and confident you appear. lots of factors. Some days I get a number of almost every girl I approach and others I get maybe 1/3. It ranges between 1/3 and 1/2 I'd say. Maybe 2/3 on a good day, when your mojo is strong.

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if all you are concerned with is talking to less girls, and sleeping with more, then probably sleeping with 1 girl out of 10 would be having a tight game, some guys literally do 100s of approaches before they even get laid, also the problem with your success rate question is success is subjective to the person's goals, this may also seem sort of paradoxical, but one guy could get 9/10 phone numbers and leave his sets with warm feelings of acceptance and sleep with 0 girls, using a more friendly safe approach, while another guy could get 1/10 phone numbers, piss off a bunch of girls and be harshly rejected by most and end up banging one girl because he was just being extremely aggressive and persistent and wouldn't leave until a harsh rejection or sex, it really depends on how you view success, is success banging a hottie?, is success banging the most women possible?, is success finding an awesome girlfriend who totally matches you and is fun to be around?, is success finding bi-sexual girls for threesomes?, is success talking to less women before sex happens?, is success spending the least amount of time between lays?,

there are ways to improve your ''success'' based on your goals, but it really depends on what those goals are, in terms of pickup, I like to think if you actually are enjoying picking up girls and meeting them and the process is actually fun for you instead of some big stressful task, then you are successful, especially if you're meeting girls you like regardless of how other people judge them, if you're happy, that's all that really matters, more so then are other people impressed by you, or how quickly and safely can you get this over with, that sort of thinking just puts a whole bunch of pressure on you to reach an outcome and then you won't actually be enjoying your time with these girls and they'll sense the desperation and neediness from a mile away, just focus on making your task fun, easy, and requiring as close to 0 effort on your part as possible, if 0 effort to you is trying to develop a perfect approach and hanging in there as long as possible girl after girl after girl and trying to improve the perfect approach and sleep with them the same day, then do it up, if 0 effort for you is just making a million approaches and shooting out your little 3 sentence routine and following up on the numbers you got for dates, then do it up, what ever you enjoy doing man, just make sure you get out there and get to work if you're still single and you're not making at least 1 approach a day, you are seriously wasting your time

I understand what you're saying about getting started also, starting daygame is very intimidating, especially if you are not used to stating intent or feel like it's weird to just talk to someone you don't know during the day but you will get used to it, just have to do it alot more, once you get over the idea that it's just talking to girls and most of them appreciate being appreciated, you can start to just relax, stop worrying about the outcome, and have some fun with it and develop your own game