Senario: Ok so two wings and I are out at the bar. We spot 3-4 chix in a group at the bar we wanna talk to. What kinda opener would be best in this group setting?

my advice: go alone, start the talk then call your wings.

group vs. group is kind of intimidating...

talk to your friends "i´ll go first, stabilish some ground then after some minutes you came"

when they came it´s nice to ask thinks "did you see derp???" then you introduce them and keep the game.

my experience says when groups approach always someone does not like someone and as group they feel the obligation of "everybody must interact with everybody".

so go alone, then bring your buddies. use a regular opener to the group, gain the group then bring your wings (2 - 3 minutes). it proved more successful to me.

Couldnt agree more with phill

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Its a freakin battlefield

As a matter of fact that may really help me out. See my main problem ia my friends expect me to lay all the ground work and physically bring the girls to them at our spot of the bar. Im a social butterfly, ill not afraid to talk to anyone. But my friends are bogging me down...and i dont wanna jus switch friends.

dude, everybody has it own rhythm. if they´re kind of slow, respect their slowness and star pushing them to a higher pace.

results will come and they´ll get excited and start being a little bit faster.

friends will be friends forever, but not all of your friends are ready or like the game. I have best friends that I cant count on to play, others I know will never play.

I suppose your right. They go out to solely to drink which is fine. I hunt pussy and they dont, never have....anything I've got is bcz I've worked for it. Im Gonna have to assemble a new crew. Got any good group opener's while we r on the topic?? Anyone?

If its a group of 8+ i like to go up and say, "damn... Who's birthday is it?" it usually actually IS someone in the groups bday lol. If its no ones bday they will usually say, "no ones bday, our group all knows each other from...."

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"Those who push themselves and are willing to face pain, exhaustion, humiliation, rejection or worse are the ones who become champions" -Style

Go in with wingmen and go hey are you guys triplets (or quartlets if there are 4 ppl).

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The bday one is a good one. Anyone have anymore?

The bday one is a good one. Anyone have anymore?