This is where i am going to publicly shame myself for pussying out, so that next time i set myself a task of approaching or opening i will be more motivated and not want to fanny out if it. If anyone else wants to share the what why how whens of their being pussies in opening be my guest.

So today i was in work, and theres a homeless guy that is alway sitting in the doorway about 2 doors down, usually getting pissed on cheap beer. Skol to be exact. Anyways tonight he is especially rotten and hes been causing abit of a load of noise- shouting at people and pretending to do kung fu ect. so the police come out to move him on. As the van pulls up two male officers and an officerette step out. She was a 7 but partly only because she was in uniform.
So i say to myself "im going to tell her i want to report a crime......being that good looking should be illegal". I didnt though. I pussied out.
I knew it wouldnt get me anywhere and i knew that they would all find it corny as hell but that was the point really, to be ballsy enough to deliver a cheesy chat up line to an officer in front of two of her colleagues. It would of been good for confidence building. Except it wasnt, as i flaked.

And thats my confession. Maybe next time ill follow through so as to not have to shame myself again.

Hey Man im the same way i have chickened out before, but now i go to malls and approach women, your first approach is the hardest.. i got rejected hard my first time. but after watching these videos on youtube "day game" it has helped me alot to gain confidence.. remember GIRLS ARE DISPOSABLE i think like an AFC sometimes but i have recently gained the mentality of not giving a f**k. try using this line "excuse me i was wondering if i could get your opinion on something. ive only got a minute, i need to get back to my friend(s).. pause wait for her to say okay she might be awkward but who cares. " He and i were having a debate who lies more guys or girls, all my guy friends say girls, but i need a women's opinion on this" then after this you can Neg her, for example if she is wearing glasses you can say " i like those nerdy cute glasses they really brought my attention where did you buy them?" then for a closure you can say " listen i gotta go catch up with my friends and you gotta go shopping, so how about we exchange numbers and go out for a cup of coffee" if she is with a friend maybe ask the friend if u can get the permission of getting her #.. Remember GIRLS ARE DISPOSABLE... GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE!!!

right. todays challenge im delivering that line and getting a number, and im not going to be writing in the pussy profile how i gave in!!

I agree with a lot of this, but time and time again I see the 'neg' being misused.

The only reason to ever use a neg is for non-compliance, what a neg actually is a form of punishing her bad behaviour. You should only bust on her only when she steps out of line.

If she's co-operating with you, why should you punish her for that? - It could be counter productive, so instead of trying to bring her down to your level, raise your level to hers.

Instead of using a neg replace it with a DHV, something like my friend has those exact same glasses, where did you get them or some other fluff talk as to why they caught your attention, you subtly imply she has good taste aswell as building comfort and rapport.

That being said, I feel the rest of the structure it is pretty good

Reward positive behaviour, punish negative. makes sense. kind of reminds me of a dog training book i read...

And again, hb7 at the busstop was a perfect opportunity but i flaked again. Goddammnit.

You couldn't be more any more correct - seriously.

I think women are truly amazing to be around, spend time with and they also teach us at the same time - But in our scenario and the part were interested in is that what we are indeed doing is training them how to behave around us.

In essence treat any girl you meet almost like your little sister or a small child.
You know best (by your standards) so you discipline them that way accordingly.

e.g. If a woman did something to please you (like bring you a beer or whatever) you'd be naturally grateful they did it, if they did something you didn't approve of you let them know about it but at the same without losing control/getting angry etc. (beta male or AFC behaviour) this is where negging really works, you display disinterest in them and they feel they need to justify themselves to you to win your attention back.
Don't sweat it, it’s easier said than done but if you can't bring yourself to think of anything to say just ask their opinion on something (like the weather/your shoes or just whatever other situational elements are around) and judge their level of interest.

Better to have a little small talk and nothing more than that... then you can say to yourself at least you tried plus you'll also learn what stuff works and what doesn’t for the next time

You did nothing wrong dude. I'm a guy who will blast people if they're fucking up. I want to be blasted when I fuck up as well...

But I see it differently here. This chick was working. Not just a desk job, but working as a police officer. If you'd opened her then/there - it would be ballsy, but stupid. There's a time/place - that was neither.

Seriously, don't beat yourself up over THIS one... That approach would have been nothing more than bothersome to her at the moment.

The one at the busstop - yeah, kick your own ass about that one, but let the cop slide... You did right by not opening her.



RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

I didn't know how to address this one originally and I’ve had a bit of a think about it, as I've never attempted to approach a uniform especially on duty (If I did, It wouldn't be a case of AA (or AE as I like to call it) more out of the fear of obstructing an officer in the line of duty).

I’d use caution in situations such as officers on the beat, they probably put up with a lot of sh*t on a daily basis.
I think it didn't come across cheesy or awkward and she actually enjoyed the compliment, she would have to laugh it off to remaining professional in her work, but if she could stop for a quick chat she’ll most likely get a call on her radio to the next call or disturbance and she would have to go, no FTC or any other game should stop her from doing her job (a bum on the street fair enough, but next call could be an emergency).

As an off duty officer, yes, you could game her like any other woman on the street.

Took a while to reflect on it and I agree with RR - solid advice.

Bro i went Sarging today and i got a number in my first approach.. You wana know how i got it? its called CONFIDENCE. Our Dads where men, and they made us men, now listhen you gotta ghet the confidence and just approach, whats the worsy that could happen?

Right on the money.

The worst thing that could normally happen is she shuts you out and keeps on walking or just wont engage with you because she's either isn't interested or too busy,

If she's with friends (the set), she may get them to screen and approve of you first. Best way to combat this is just don't focus on one person (the one your interested in), involve the group as your talking.

Either way, the best thing to do is just to go do it and if the worse comes just 'eject' from the situation by just telling them something like "I've gotta go (e.g. finish shopping) but it was nice talking to you/them" but try not to show that your panicking (at least on the outside).

If you do happen to get a set back, you'll notice and reflect to yourself "actually...that wasn't so bad" - I normally get the that buzz that I know I can do it and I want to jump straight to my next target.

Plus you'll come away richer for it because after a couple of approaches that you will know straight away what is working/what isn't and what you can improve on etc.