Daygame: Use Direct or Indirect openers? for best results.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:56 am 
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Hi guys

Until now both day and night, I use In-Direct openers and quickly transition to more direct challenges etc, and disqualifiers. I just wanted to know how you have found direct game works for you vs in direct, specifially with street game? What are the advantages of taking more risk?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:01 am 
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higher risk, higher reward

lower risk, lower chance of hash critism


the frame is fairly important, but you must realize, indirect game does not mean never showing intent, if you are going indirect then ''switching'' to direct, you are actually just doing indirect game without proper calibration, or were being direct from the very start

indirect = revealing your intent after you have built enough value that the girl is giving signs that she is interested

direct = directly communicating your intentions at all times and remaining congruent with your expression of your feelings

so for example, you could be thinking, wow I want to talk to those girls, if you walk up to them and open with ''wow I want to talk to you girls'' you were just direct with them

in the same way that if you talk to a girl for 10-15 minutes under a social frame, just teasing her and casually shooting the shit telling stories about that time you got drugged in a bar and woke up in some girls room with your wallet missing but $400 in your pocket and the last thing you remember was throwing beer bottles at some guys balcony until he came out and raged at you, and you notice the girl is really digging your stories and keep showing interest in what you are saying, so you just start hitting on her and telling her how you love girls just like her and how awesome it is that she does XYZ and that totally makes her sexy etc. while building some compliance, you are not being direct at all, you just pulled off some indirect game

no matter what style you adopt, to get from point A to sex, a sexual frame must be established, if you treat a girl like a friend, expect that frame to solidify and you to end up as her friend, in some cases you can get lucky with this and exeptions will be made, but they are few or far between

but in reguards to opening, opening while showing intent will simply weed out girls that are not compliant enough to conform to a sexual frame with you

hiding your intent and keeping the frame social, will give you more leg room socially so to speak, girls will be more compliant with socializing because it breaks social norms for her to be non-compliant with a non-sexual frame, that would be a social violation on her part and lower her value (socially), if the person cares about the approval of others this is important (and most girls care to a great degree how they are percieved), so techniqually this gives you more of a chance to show off your personality, this can either be looked at as ''a better chance of success'' or ''a waste of time'', it is subject to the persons own personal perseption reality

so, TL:DR = indirect will open and hook more sets but you will find you hook alot of girls with no interest in sleeping with you, direct will open and hook less sets, but the ones that do open and hook have a higher chance of sleeping with you


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:52 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:31 pm 
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if is someone random that's walking by or something, you should go direct.

If your at a place where people are waiting for something like a bus, you can go indirect. Now, you have time to burn.


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