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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:07 pm 
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What makes you think I'm open-minded and intelligent?

Well, in any event, I went to the University of Washington's campus, instead, but I wound up not sarging at all. I was alone, far from base, and unlike the colleges near here, my grunginess was not par for the course. My beard wasn't kempt, and while I'd worn a clean blue shirt, my hair, though short, wasn't the cleanest, and had gotten long enough to be mussed. Fearing I'd get security called again, I just stuck to sightseeing.

In other words, I guess you could say I lost nerve, but even so, it was valuable casing for future sarges, and was not a waste.

Clearly, I need to up my presentation, starting with my facial hair. I'm going to need more haircuts, but I don't wish to shave it all off, namely because I don't like shaving, and I'm not a slave to fashion. My beard, though, could use manicuring.

Hair salons, you said?

Boy, up there, after having sarged in dinky little colleges down south, up there's the full meal. Not all the UW girls were lookers by a long shot, but the college certainly had a far higher percentage of them than at Evergreen or the general population, unless my eyes deceived. They say colleges screen for those likely to succeed already, but looks, admit it or not, is a factor; gravy for PUAs. There, in the U District, I can sarge all over, rather than quickly coming across as creepy as I have here in a very claustrophobic environ such as that community college.

Before I return, though, how many precautions ought I take?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:27 am 
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Remember that kiddie story about the Emperor Without Clothes? You might think you look or dress good but actually you're not. In short, get an objective, neutral assessment (not from your friends, not from your sister, not from your mom) BUT from the hairdresser and fashion store female sales crew.

It's all too common. Guys with high IQ have very poor social calibration and EQ. They're very open minded though. You'll know that they're past their nerdy days when they would rather talk about mundane and stupid things just for the fun of it. At this juncture, it's also the point in their lives where they get laid a lot.

We have already discussed your precautions well. Let's number list those.

1. Dress similar but slightly better than your target demographics.

2. Keep a neutral, nonsexual vibe. Only transition to a sexual vibe once you get the nonverbal cues.

3. Since you're sarging girls that are younger than you are by a very wide age gap, bait for kino. Let the girl touch you first. If you can get the girl giggling or laughing, she will touch you first.

4. Have plausible deniability. If you go to the university library, read a book. If you go to the student union building, get a drink. Sarging girls should be secondary to your agenda or at least appear like you're at your sarging location to read a book or get a drink rather than out there chasing skirts. If you get bothered by school officials once again, you can always say, "I'm doing research for my doctorate." or "I'm just having a drink but since the tables are fully packed I have no choice but to sit near this woman."

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Remember that kiddie story about the Emperor Without Clothes? You might think you look or dress good but actually you're not. In short, get an objective, neutral assessment (not from your friends, not from your sister, not from your mom) BUT from the hairdresser and fashion store female sales crew.

We have already discussed your precautions well. Let's number list those.

1. Dress similar but slightly better than your target demographics.

2. Keep a neutral, nonsexual vibe. Only transition to a sexual vibe once you get the nonverbal cues.

3. Since you're sarging girls that are younger than you are by a very wide age gap, bait for kino. Let the girl touch you first. If you can get the girl giggling or laughing, she will touch you first.

4. Have plausible deniability. If you go to the university library, read a book. If you go to the student union building, get a drink. Sarging girls should be secondary to your agenda or at least appear like you're at your sarging location to read a book or get a drink rather than out there chasing skirts. If you get bothered by school officials once again, you can always say, "I'm doing research for my doctorate." or "I'm just having a drink but since the tables are fully packed I have no choice but to sit near this woman."
Plausible deniability. Well, I really do love libraries.

As for not kinoing, I've got a hard time building and keeping interest, as is. Don't see that baiting's gonna work. Do you get the girl laughing during attraction, or qualification? I've multiple times got the girl to laugh slightly, and then gone nowhere.

Just last night, I gamed a girl, gauged correct, got a slight giggle, didn't especially qualify, could have applied more energy, went into comfort, basically, and after a little bit of talking, the girl unceremoniously walked off with her friends. No kinoing.

Oh, and after getting the girl to laugh, I stayed in a neutral vibe, and didn't shift.

Didn't read the signs to start going sexual, did I?

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Plausible deniability. Well, I really do love libraries.

As for not kinoing, I've got a hard time building and keeping interest, as is. Don't see that baiting's gonna work. Do you get the girl laughing during attraction, or qualification? I've multiple times got the girl to laugh slightly, and then gone nowhere.

Just last night, I gamed a girl, gauged correct, got a slight giggle, didn't especially qualify, could have applied more energy, went into comfort, basically, and after a little bit of talking, the girl unceremoniously walked off with her friends. No kinoing.

Oh, and after getting the girl to laugh, I stayed in a neutral vibe, and didn't shift.

Didn't read the signs to start going sexual, did I?
Sounds good. One step at a time. That's the way to do it so you can break down each step and learn it well.

If you don't transition to a sexual vibe, you'll likely get friendzoned every time. A good eye fuck will quickly transition you into a sexual vibe without the girl knowing that you're sexually escalating. However, she will feel subconsciously aroused and/or attracted to you. The best indicator of this arousal is when she eye fucks you back (mirroring).

If 10 out of 10 girls are not eye fucking you back, that's trustworthy feedback that you need to fix your grooming (fix your wardrobe, trim your nose hairs, whiten your teeth, firm up your muscles a little bit with some HIIT time at the gym, get a hair cut, and so on and so forth).

The eye fuck is something more potent than kino. However, the eye fuck works even better with kino. If you find it hard to bait girls into kino, you can hold the girl's hand when she starts eye fucking you back. Of course, always calibrate.

For instance, last night I was sarging this girl and we were eye fucking each other. She tried to pull her hand away which I'm holding and caressing but she kept on eye fucking me back. So I didn't let go of her hand and pulled her even closer to me.

She didn't pulled her hand away from that point forward. I touched her face with the back of my hand, stroked her hair, smelled her hair, blew warm breaths into her ear, felt the sides of her belly and rubbed my cock at her ass.

She reciprocated by leaning against my chest.

At one point during the interaction, while holding her hand, I rested her hand by my leg. When she showed no resistance, I brought her hand nearer my cock area but she pulled back. So I started again from step 1 to escalate back until I was finally covertly grinding my cock at her ass with no resistance.

I was trying to isolate her to my apartment but her cousin (my Valentine's date) came by since she'll travel at dawn to promote some consumer items at a big city (her cousin is a brand ambassador for a major brand). So I ejected from the set with blue balls content with a nearer isolation bounce to the other side of the street for some hotdogs and soda. I''ll try to f-close her tonight.

Basically, that's the gist of it. The eye fuck is your foot in the door for more intense sexual escalation.

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Hm. Just what exactly is an "eye-fuck," Hellhound? I've heard differing accounts of eye-seduction, and it's annoying.

I would have thought it simply smiling while lowering the eyebrows, or "hooded," or "piercing" eyes, but there seems a very low amount of info about this matter on the web, and it surprises.

Months ago, before I got serious about all this, I noticed a girl stroking her hair with a limp wrist, and thought she might be, uh, calling to me, so I gave her the eyes, and she, to use another adjective, "squinted" back. DIdn't move beyond that, but is that what one says with the term, "eye-fuck," or does it have multiple meanings, instead of a specific one?

Two years back, I was reapplying for gym membership, and was at a desk withthe girl on duty, about an eight, as I recall. As she kept her nose down, doing paperwork, I noticed she was fussing with her hair something terrific. Having read the lit, I wondered if this might be an IOI, and decided to try something, after acting otherwiseoblivious to her behavior. Thus, when arising after everything was signed, I thanked her arose, and smiling, pierced her with my eyes.

And the results, let's just say, were electric--for both of us. The girl acted on sheer instinct as if in trance, titing her whole head and body to one side, touching her hair with one hand, and breasts with the other.

A more submissive act you never saw.

That the general idea?

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Hm. Just what exactly is an "eye-fuck," Hellhound?
Google the title of the scientific study as quoted below if you want to dig deeper. It's available for free the last time I checked but it could be for sale any moment soon.

My first quote below discusses the why. My second quote discusses the how.
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Why the Eyefuck Routine Works

Warped Mindless observed that a lot of PUAs underestimate the power of the eyefuck or laser eyes as he calls it in his ESP Escalation Model. Slywalker and Chief certainly discussed the benefits of the eyefuck in their respective threads. Unfortunately, I got information overload when I studied these threads. But in the case of WM's thread, the eyefuck was emphasized really well. The ESP Escalation Model is lean and mean in my opinion.

The other threads discussing the benefits of the eyefuck are:
In the scientific study by Tombs and Silverman, Pupillometry: A sexual selection approach, in the Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior 25 (2004) 221–228, they found out that a man's sexual attractiveness among women (when the pupils of his eyes dilated to the largest size) increased by more than 60%.

The study discussed two methods in two parts consisting of 30 women in the first method and 60 women in the second method. The mean age of women in the first study was 22.67 while in the second study, the mean age was 20.62 years old.

The researchers correlated large pupil sizes among men with sexual arousal. They also found out that women who got attracted most to men with the largest pupils preferred the bad boy type. To quote, "In the present study, females who exhibited preferences for male photos showing heightened sexual arousal also revealed preferences for bad boys as dating partners." (p. 226).

Conclusion

The eyefuck routine is one good way to build your sexual attractiveness by more than 60%. Why? It makes you look like a bad boy which makes women horny.

Let's discuss. :twisted:
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its very confusing but i can understand it a bit,thank you Mr.Hellhound :)you are very helpful
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The idea is to dilate your pupils (make it grow big) so it occupies 80% to 90% of your iris. When a woman sees that your pupils are big, her pupils will likewise grow bigger which will occupy some 80% to 90% of her iris.

So how do you make your pupils grow big? While looking into the girl's eyes, imagine fucking her brains out. Do not look at any of her erotic body parts and focus only on the girl's eyes. Sometimes, the girl's pupils will just occupy 50% of her iris but will eye fuck you still. This means that you are not horny enough and the girl is simply mirroring your sexual state.

If you are horny enough, the girl will likewise be horny enough enabling you to sexually escalate faster either through touch (kino) or words (sexual innuendos).

Personally, I put shiny things near my cock area. When a girl looks at my crotch, it usually triggers her pupils to grow and occupy the irises from 50% to 80%. Funny thing is, when I started putting shiny things near my cock, more girls are saying straight to my face that I'm handsome or "I love you" even those girls I haven't f-closed yet. Based on girls' body language, I think "You're handsome" is girlie speake for "I want your cock inside my pussy."

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So, "fuck eyes" are simply the size of the pupil, basically, and nothing else? That explains much.

I've been having a hard time getting into a sexual state, or am fighting it, that seems much of me problem...

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Hm...you know, about going back to the UW, I could employ the frame of a wandering tourist, couldn't I? That would be honest, and congruent, because I would be.

Also, I've said, narrowing my gaze seems to work well at generating IOIs. I tried it just the other day on a greeter lady some place where I regularly go, and she touched my arm, yet all we were talking about was a bulletin.

As I've said, hooded eyes seems to work for me.

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But of course, always use what works for you well infield. However, since you currently have only one sample reference for your hooded eye contact, try it several dozen times more and compare that to the eye fuck which you should also try several dozen times.

3 to 4 dozen sarging instances are ideal numbers. The first dozen lets you calibrate what you're doing wrong and get into the feel of things. The second dozen lets you assimilate the nonverbal routine into your system. Meanwhile, the 3rd to 4th dozen sarges give you a better grip on the success rate since by this phase you are making very minimal mistakes.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:56 am 
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Yesterday, a cute girl on the bus opened me, basically. She offered me a seat on the bus, which is unusual, took it as an invite, and she indeed proved warm. I proved more relaxed than most of my previous approaches, and I playfully kinoed her, but I think I muddled qualification and comfort a bit, and thus she said she needed to get back to studying, which she granted, though she later reopened, volunteering her name. Didn't number close, or even try to, before she got off.

The main positive, I posit, was that I wasn't overdoing it, at least, and not getting restraining orders.

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I feel like there is so much extra info everyone is throwing at this guy because they think they know some super advanced answer as to why that happened.

You dont use kino at the start dude, you need to actually spark her first and get the ball rolling. You need to find commonality with them, and vibe with them first. You need to be on that same level with them first so it doesnt come off as creepy. It sounds like you started using kino wayyyyy too early.

Run through the scenario yourself, even if youre a guy it would feel the same as if you were a girl:
A guy you never met before touches your back and starts talking to you:
-Your response would probably be: "Why is this guy touching me and what does he want?"

It instantly sets off an alert. Kino should be playful once you are calibrated with them on the same vibe.


Hopefully this helps dude. I feel like everyone is just overlooking a common and simple problem. Goodluck!


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Yesterday, a cute girl on the bus opened me, basically. She offered me a seat on the bus, which is unusual, took it as an invite, and she indeed proved warm. I proved more relaxed than most of my previous approaches, and I playfully kinoed her, but I think I muddled qualification and comfort a bit, and thus she said she needed to get back to studying, which she granted, though she later reopened, volunteering her name. Didn't number close, or even try to, before she got off.

The main positive, I posit, was that I wasn't overdoing it, at least, and not getting restraining orders.

If they reopen the conversation for any reason, that is a very big IOI, so that is a good thing. Next time this happens you should get the number close before the interaction ends


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I feel like there is so much extra info everyone is throwing at this guy because they think they know some super advanced answer as to why that happened.

You dont use kino at the start dude, you need to actually spark her first and get the ball rolling. You need to find commonality with them, and vibe with them first. You need to be on that same level with them first so it doesnt come off as creepy. It sounds like you started using kino wayyyyy too early.

Run through the scenario yourself, even if you're a guy it would feel the same as if you were a girl:
A guy you never met before touches your back and starts talking to you:
-Your response would probably be: "Why is this guy touching me and what does he want?"

It instantly sets off an alert. Kino should be playful once you are calibrated with them on the same vibe.


Hopefully this helps dude. I feel like everyone is just overlooking a common and simple problem. Goodluck!
It does; thankee.
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If they reopen the conversation for any reason, that is a very big IOI, so that is a good thing. Next time this happens you should get the number close before the interaction ends
Indeed; when she reopened, she even volunteered her name.

Youknow, when my eyes are are smiling it makes a huge difference in the results I get, I'm starting to notice. When engaging, I've been so focused on other things, that I don't convey that I'm having fun, but when showing negative body language when smiling, even when I'm not getting attraction, qualification, and comfort right, get good results.

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Noitarist, I'm glad that you've finally learned to read approach invitation cues and are more self aware on those nonverbal components of communication. It also appears that you're finally getting into the groove of that non-creepy vibe.

As for your sexual vibe since you said you're still finding it difficult to transition into this one, all I can say is cut your soda intake to zero and make it a regular habit to eat broccoli, cauliflowers, okra and oysters at least twice a week.

If you have no serious medical condition, do some HIIT on strength and cardio.

Proper diet, smart exercise and ample sleep will greatly help your game a lot. You'll notice that girls will be the ones who initiate kino rather than you once you get those components well handled. They'll feel your biceps, rub your chest, pinch your belly, press their breasts against your arm and so on and so forth.

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It happened just as I was getting inured to the high rejection of cold approaches, too.

No, I wasn't arrested, but it makes it harder for me to find places to practice, it was a community college, and I'm at risk of a terrible reputation, to say the least, at the rate I've been going.

As to how, I think it comes from sarging in a place too small, primarily, but then again, others sarge at clubs, but then they know the relative parties.

How often does this happen to schmoes like me, anywho?
Probably because you took hellhounds advice and did some real creepy shit.

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