Great opener dude, seeing how I am new to the community I eat up anything new and try it imediatly so some HBs on Hathway are gonna here this come friday

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I thinks it's a grade A opener, but I'd stack it quick to something DHVing, then to a neg, I think this would be an opener for a set where you wouldnt want to neg right from the start...the opener should keep their attention because all girls like talking about relationships but it doesnt necessarily instill much value right from the start. Still very good and I'm adding it to my arsenal.

IN FACT, that's exactly what you hope happens (she asks your friend and they say..what girl?) Here is why, then if she mentions something to you about it, you say....my dear, I don't kiss and tell. (something along those lines...be creative)

It lets her know you are going to be private with your love life and should make her all that more comfortable knowing you aren't going to run back to your boys for every date you go out on.


BTW: I love this opener.

It's a great opener !!

As for "Curse" back up why you think it's "rubbish" mate ? Don't just make an off handed comment and put the guy down, and then just leave it at that ?

If your going to put the guy down, and least do it in a constuctive way.

Like I said, I think it's an excellent opener, and one we can all fine tune to our own situations.

Thanks for posting.

Great Opener...


and if the girl asks your friends about the other girl...


they are your wingmen..they will have your back and just play along so thats not an issue...

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I think it's good the only problem I would see with it would be in the longer run. And her preception of, is she going to be that girl in two weeks, "is he going to be going out and talking to another girl". Great for one night stands but not sure if it would work in the long run because your starting off your relationship with a lie. that is if your lying.

I think it's great.

It qualifies you as not needy, and subconsiously makes her realize that is she wants to be with you, she can't be needy.

My Comments:
- Modify it with a False Time Constraint or you may convey to much intrest to the set.
- Very good DHV by injecting preselection into the set
- Very good by injecting scarcity into the set
- However, I'd drop the "I need an opinion..." from the beginning and replace it with a "Hey do you have a minute, I'd like another perspective....".

thats $

It sounds pretty damn good. I'm going to use it tomorrow.

true, not to mention you can also turn it into a neg

if she tells you she went asking your friends about the other girl

PUA: geesh, aren't you a sneaky one!... (optional) you do this to all the guys you like?

or something along those lines

Love it man. Really clever.

Make sure to sell it to them thou.
Not a line you can half ass

Field tested and approved.

Ventmonkey and I tried this tonight w/ positive results.

As soon as we stepped into the club smiles and all, me and him converesed , with my back to my 2 set,HB7 & HB5. I pull out my cell to make it look like i got a text and lean at an angle and ask:

Justincredible
"Hey" (kino tap the outside of arm of hb7)
HB7 leans back w/ still her back turned to me, but although my back still facing he,r my face facing at an angle.
"Lemme ask you girls a question. I've been seeing this girl for a bit, and its all good I think, but then just now she texts me wondering if were bf or gf." (funny thing is I didnt express it as a question. I kinda gave them a summary.)

HB7
"wow how do you feel about her."
Justincredible
"I care for her, but I see her more like a sister."
HB5
"How long were you two together?"
Justincredible
"We went out on 3 dates."

At this time Vent comes in to convo w/ HB5.

HB7
"Wow thats not long at all. She sounds like she maybe alittle crazy."
Justincredible
"Well since you may possibly sense one of your own(I say it fairly fast), how do you deal with the poor schmuck nice guys? How do you let them know its better to be friends?
HB7
"Heeeey sense my own?" I inturrupt her.
Justincredible
"Now now dont bust a blood vessel, I was just saying youre fairly attractive.." she interrupts
HB7
"Fairly?" I inturrupt her
Justincredible
"Attractive (smile flash) so all I'm saying is that you've had youre share of nice guys, who've become good friends, how that happen?"
HB7
"Well I just told them straight forward, I think we should be friends."
Justincredible
"That may be hard for alot of guys to buy that. I'm sure they see something in you, that you cant. But I kinda see it."
HB7
"Oh yea whats that?"
Justincredible
"Lets step here for a second. (FTC & isolation) Well what could possibly be about you that you think guys are drawn to? "
HB7
"Well I hope its my personality but its probably(kinda giggles) my body parts."
Justincredible
"Thats not what I see. Is there more to you than the hair and the pink purse?"
HB7
"Im..uh blah blah blah."
Justincredible
I put out my hands to see if she grabs. And she does.I squeeze she squeezes back. I smile and so does she.

"Well miss personality, I need to get back to my friend but I'd like to continue this away from the bar and I dont even know your name"
HB7
"Its Ashley"
Justincredible
"My name is Justin"
I brake the hand holding to get out my phone. I give it to her.
"Here."
She unflips it and puts her number, calls it, and hands it back.
I put out my arms for a hug. We hug.
We then go back to the other two. Politely eject.

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good stuff mate.... I'll use it.

"the only problems that might arise is when she wonders why you are free and not with this other girl "

naw, I doubt it. If the girl had to ask if they were boyfriend/girlfriend, it is implied that they are not. And if they're dating for 2 weeks, it goes without saying its not serious.

"I think it's good the only problem I would see with it would be in the longer run. And her preception of, is she going to be that girl in two weeks, "is he going to be going out and talking to another girl"."

naw... most chicks won't expect anything after two weeks. besides, you can take care of this with her answer. if she says that the g/f shouldn't expect anything, then she wouldn't be one to think that. If she says that she would expect the same thing, you could neg her for being clingy.

Happy sarging....

i like it