hey thanks for the feedback guys, i'll try a few different things out and let ya'll know what works, peace

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this is great for you, you can get to the push pull part, make her have to qualify herself in order to touch you or have you, afterall you're the prize, and putting a price on urself will make em come after u even more, kino escalate, close kiss, deal.

Used to have the same problem, except the Male Model part.

I know what you're talking about - I used to actually get nervous, because they were always all dominant and in control of the situation instead of me. Like I was the prey instead of the dude with the cool rifle and the walkie talkie.

It's the PERFECT opportunity for some C&F. I.E. they escalate Kino, put their hands on your chest?

"Hey, stop that! You can't just drag me into bed, I need to know how much money you make first"

Just build on cocky and funny, but DON'T act disinterested. I've seen guys that are less good looking (I'm not trying to brag or anything here, honestly) act disinterested and it works like a dream. But from a girl's perspective, if a really good looking guy that obviously attracts other girls is disinterested, it won't drive them crazy like they're supposed to, it will just kill their interest. Unless they have a ridiculous ego or something.

HEll yeah man, the feeling of converting her from the "who the fuck are you" to the "when are gonna Fuck?" stage is priceless

but to your problem, if its a genuine problem, i would say either approach faster, or go to clubs or spots where women think "there the shit" because most guys who are attractive enough to where they dont use game are usally the ones who dont get the cream of the crop "the hot bitchy" women, they get good looking women no doubt, but i hardly see a "im the shit" women taking the role of approaches and not the receiver.

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Assuming your as good looking as you say you are, you probably have high standards.. you want HB9s and HB10s.. unfortuantely, buddy, most of the time, its you who have to go up to them and escalate things with girls of that calliber. NO MATTER HOW GOOD LOOKING YOU ARE.. good looks actually work against you sometime during the game because girls think you get any girl you want pretty easily.. I've seen it where girls are nice to the fat chunky AFCs approaching them.. but then when the cocky confident good looking guy comes in, they have a bigger shield up.. But persistence, will have them grinding against you later on in the night, while those fat, chunky guys watch you and hate themselves.. lol

your probably too obsessed wtih your social frame, that you don't break loose.. You think to yourself "I'm a good looking guy taht every bitch wants, why should i even face rejection." They want me they come to me.. "i can do better than all of them, wtf"

i know what your going through.. but if you ever want to get the HB9 and HB10 thats up to your standard, ur going to have to approach...

you poor guy. i feel so bad for you. lmao dude im the same way with looks but i it doesnt make gaming hard. it just makes it a different style. just work some new shit bc good looks mean you can make more mistakes without the girls caring. if that made sense to you lol

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

The Above IMO is bang on the money, often exactley that which holds me back. i have done male modelling too for a mens clothing mail order catologue. often times i'll go into a bar or club lately and simply cannot find a woman that comes to my standards. this is a real problem. i find myself in a postion where i look around, dont see a female that gets my blood flowing to want to put the effort in to game her. This is a serious issue for me that i want to work on. probably my biggest weakness or is it an excuse that i'm using for myself not to game them. I find myself always making excuses, she's too old, too young, she has crooked teeth she has a fat ass, fat ankles, shit dress sense, whatever ! then i end up going home alone FFS.

The second thing that goes against good looking guys is woman always assume you have a girlfriend for christs sake, the amount of times i have gamed girls and asked for there number the answer you nearly always get thrown at you is "i bet you have a girlfriend" or "You must have a girlfiend" they will even start argueing with you insisting your married or whatever, they cant or wont believe your single !!
Its a Pain in the ass !

hey man! I feel you. Even though I am not a model nor have a totally toned body however i believe my body is very athletic. Every single women i have met in my life have started a conversation or approached me before I made my move. And it really sucks. I want to turn the things around, flip the coin, change the mirror. I also wanna see the other side of the house. We are here to game because we want to control the game. We are here because we want to be the player not a pawn.

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Keep trying...

It is kind of a problem. I was watching Millionaire Matchmaker and there was this guy who was a male model, but he was getting older so women weren't giving him as much play. He had zero game and looked like a tool when he tried to pick up on women; he'd only talk about himself, he didn't know any better.

Ever since i stopped playing HS football I gained a little weight, so im a little huskier. so when girls used to run game on me, now I initiate. being heavy but strong not fat makes me seem more agressive, manly and the women are way in to it once i seal the deal.

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