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Just get a buzz so you can still play the game without loss of judgement and you still know all your tricks.

Once you get tipsy or drunk, you could end up getting too cocky or lose judgement on what to do.


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i would have to say that the liquid courage is the way to go, more often than not when i go out i get pretty tipsy but i am good about appearing somewhat sober; about 80% of the time i will at least kiss close, but you have to be careful not to get too far gone when sarging. I got so far gone whie sarging one night, i was working on this girl for a while but i hadnt even gotten a kiss, that when i was dancing with this chick i literally put my junk in her hand and it worked. Many will call bullshit on this but her immediate response was that we should go back to my place. Now i tried this again at about the same state of inebriation and i got the shit slapped out of me; moral of the story dont get hammered and sarge and if you do and it somehow works dont try it again. Dont turn down alcohal altogether while sarging, hopedyou liked my experience.

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I don't have a problem opening and building comfort anymore, but I remember about a year ago when I started I had this little problem where your mouth just gets dry, it's like some sort of natural reaction when u r nervous. I was used to drinking beer so I figured keeping a beer w/ me was a good technique to overcoming that sticking point, but it also made me understand that you need to control how much alcohol u drink or it makes the process harder. You can get away w/ hooking up w/ a good looking drunk chick, it's one of those things that just happens, but it somewhat beats the purpose of it.


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A few beers help me relax and makes me much more social. Normally I have AA only because I'm lost for words. Too much alcohol makes me intellectually combattive and I'll end up debating the chick on religion or some other no-no topic.

I completely screwed up a fools mate HB9 because I was overbearing and combattive.

My advise is to drink in moderation. Enough to loosen you up but no more than that. The alcohol level that would allow you to safely drive home is about right for an AFC.

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yeah...my wing and i normally just get a lil buzz goin to help us relax.


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I find that alcohol is useless unless the targets have had a few instead of using alcohol just build confidence naturally like with musci


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 Post subject: Alcohol is evil
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well maybe not evil but no good for sarging , did my first sober nite sarge , covered 8 different bars and number closed 4 hbs ! . when i sarge drunk i find ive no structure to my game and im not sharp enough . sober game is the def the way forward for me

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It's true that drinking doesn't help at all because you lose control...but making out you are drunk does help because you have an excuse to tell silly things as part of C/F, as well as a sexual aproach:

Me: Hey, can you help me in the toilet? My doctor says I can't lift heavy things...

Some girls react well:

HB: Haha...I think you have no heavy thing to lift ...Bla bla

Some girls don't react well:

HB: ¬¬ That was rude...
Me: Haha, well, sorry, I'm quite drunk...have you ever tried JD? It's a an alcoholic bomb...


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depends on the individual imo


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This reminds me a few months back I was at a party and just started drinking pretty heavy, I wasn't looking to pick up just to get wasted. So halfway through the night, I've had countless beers and shots, this girl that I know, we'll call her HB8, calls me and asks what I'm doing. I tell her to come over to the party.

She shows up with her sister, which boosts up my value when I step outside to go meet them and come back in with two girls in tow.

I was drunk so the details are fuzzy, but they end up leaving, and somehow, I open up a two set, HBredhead and HBbuff and hooked them both.

This is where alcohol gets the better of me...

I was so drunk, that I started getting into a discussion about work and which work is tougher with HBbuff, a third friend, HBhugerack, joins and for some reason starts giving me kino right off the bat. I ignored her for a bit and finally turned around and told her if she wanted a beer she could go to the fridge and get one in a C/F way.

She laughed it up and ended up making out like 10 minutes later. I was so drunk, I did not #close or even get her name. I just left with my friends.

The point is, even when I was stupid drunk I was able to hook 3 girls for my attention and kiss close one of them, but it's never fun the next morning when you wake up alone :(


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Wow, apparently a touchy subject. Well, as I finish up my beer...mmm, Coors Light...and grab another...mmm, Bud Light...all I have to say is two things...
1. Know your limit. If you're going out to sarge and you know when enough to drink is enough to drink, you'll be golden like a shower. There's different aspects of the game to be played at each level of drunkenness (sp?) and there's different types of girls to be gamed at each level of inebriation. If you aren't comfortable with your game sober, don't try to game drunk. You'll just fuck up and hate yourself back to the bar where you'll grab some more liquid confidence.
2. Ok, I forgot at this point what number two was going to be. Umm, hold on. Alright! Number two is...drink quality beer. No! Just kidding! Coors Light and Bud Light are not my normal beers, as I have football practice tomorrow morning. Number two is kind of a reflection of number one. You should know how to recognize not only what aspect of game to play, but also what level of inebriation you are at. If you can't function as a person (i.e. falling asleep on the crapper), you can't game. If one or two gets you relaxed, and three to four gets you fucked up, STOP AT FOUR!
Honestly, I forgot what number two was going to be, probably something shitty anyways (ha, ha). Have fun, and don't let external factors negatively or positively affect the way you game. That's the number one thing to remember. Know yourself before you go out and try to get to know others.
Now I'm going to get another beer...mmm, Miller Light!

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Every thing is better when you are drunk, I think that if you can keep your sense when you are drunk you will do fine, especially if both parties are drunk.

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I don't know about what alcohol does to your game, but I do know this... DON'T TELL THEM YOU'RE DRUNK!! I once had one too many, got opened by a HB7 and told her I was a lil' drunk. She told me something smelled weird (????) and left for her friends. Started drinking less since that time, so I guess it was a good lesson for me! Plus It's much more fun being sober and watching drunk guys doing stupid things... And then making fun of them :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol and opening
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So I made a test...

I went out sarging a lot this week, both with and without alcohol. I was NOT drunk, just a little tipsy (in the state AFCs wanna be to approach).

Without alcohol:
90% Open rate, 60% Number close rate

With alcohol:
25% Opening rate, 0% number closes, 0% attraction, 10% sets going beyond A2...

Conclusion, dont drink and sarge.
that sucks. lol I like to drink and I pretty much have to have a few before I open a set so I usually have a couple before I hit the spot just so I'm loose...THIS IS BAD NEWS MAN :(


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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol and opening
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that sucks. lol I like to drink and I pretty much have to have a few before I open a set so I usually have a couple before I hit the spot just so I'm loose...THIS IS BAD NEWS MAN :([/quote]

Bullshit. This is only bad news to someone who either doesn't have a grasp on how to handle the effects of alcohol or someone who doesn't have a handle on how to run game.
Hell, try this. Make a hypothesis about sober gaming and inebriated gaming. Then run game sober on a Friday night, and drink while running game Saturday night (change up nights to days, or switch days entirely if you so desire, just maintain some sort of constant). Then do it for two more weeks. Compare your results after a few weekends (to help weed out the variables), and review your hypothesis. Keep notes of how you felt, how your encounters went, and the end results of said encounters. BAM! Now you know How much to drink (if any) on a night out of sarging.
Also, I in no way condone the use of alcohol by minors, pregnant women, or recovering alcoholics. If you know you shouldn't have any alcohol for whatever reasons, don't drink or Satan will kill your family.

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