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You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.
Everything you say here is correct except never say a question or a compliment to a girl.
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You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.
But everyone has been telling to compliment women. Even Mark Manson tells one should make honest compliments.
I would further this by saying that even Gambler and some others talk about using a compliment opener as long as it is honest and sincere. I feel the same way with most direct openers. There are other "gurus" who say not to do this. I have used compliments as openers in person at various points in my pick up life if there is such a thing and can tell you that there is validity in both schools of thought.
Jack makes a good point because to someone who is starting out may not know how for the compliment opener (or direct) to come across as anything but another AFC sleezy compliment. Generally this is why especially for new guys this is No Go. When someone more experience or maybe more poise is a word can use a compliment opener with confidence and sincerity it tends to go much better.
I'm not necessarily saying that new guys shouldn't use these and they are off limits. However, I think that if you are struggling to open and don't have that skill down yet there are better ways to get used to doing that will typically yield better results. Where as if you can open very well and have the abilities to do it confidently then you can get away with all kinds of openers. It really depends on where you are at with your individual skill sets.
To go one step further in proving my point about openers. They almost don't matter if you do it the right way. There is just so much more to what you are saying than the words you use. I went out there to go over this time and time again. I would open saying dumb shit like "Frozen Turkey" and try to bridge off that to open sets. I would open cranking up my middle finger, telling a girl she had a stain on her dress, I motioned that I liked her earings. Heck I've walked up to women saying nothing at all using just body language, solid eye contact, and managed to kiss girls. Hell a guy I went out with yelled across the street to a two set, "Hey come over here so I can piss in your ass." and that opened the damn set he later number closed. I later said wild shit like this too. It is more in how you say things and your body language than what you say. If you can not open confidently yet and are just getting started then you do not need to say things like this. Openers that are canned (opinion, direct, whatever) may be better because you have a known quantity and know the likely responses to it therefore you don't have to think on your feet as much.
When you are first learning things it helps to have some variables that don't change. Girls are constantly going to give you various answers. If you keep changing the variable of the opener and don't know what the responses are going to be it is harder to learn a proven process vs using an opinion opener and other things which is why I think the general compliment opener was kind of said as something not to do.
Anyways that's my 2 cents based on my experiences. Hope this helps NVB.
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