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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:54 pm 
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Hi guys, ok so im going to try to approach as many girls as I can. Im very out of practice. I might start at the train station where there are lots of people around, just to jump in at the deep end. What should I be thinking and how should I react if I get rejected in front of people and they are staring at me? I was going to try a couple of weeks ago but I choked because I was overloaded with information from pua books and audios that I was listening to and I kept trying to remember what to do, and so I didnt do it, while lots of nice women were around. There was one really hot one wearing these really cute pants, she had a camel toe and I got an instant erection, but I just didnt feel the right energy and vibe to approach her so I let her walk by without doing anything.
Anyway, any pointers and advice?


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I think a Mall or a Coffee shop would be a better option. Given the choice, I'd say mall (no one's in a rush and it's easy to go on an insta-date).

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What should I be thinking and how should I react if I get rejected in front of people and they are staring at me?

What to be thinking: You are a smooth man who has the balls to take life into his own hands unlike 99%+ of the male population. The other people in the scene simply do not matter. The girls will wish it were them you are speaking with and the guys will wish they had even 10% of the guts you have.
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I was going to try a couple of weeks ago but I choked because I was overloaded with information from pua books and audios that I was listening to and I kept trying to remember what to do, and so I didnt do it while lots of nice women were around.
Very common. The best thing you can do in this situation is to attempt to harness everything that you have learned but not to be directly thinking about it in the field.

Imagine before you go out the girls reacting very positively to your approaches. Have in mind a general framework for how you will lead the interactions from start to finish.

Then when you're out there, it's like being a player on the basketball court - you take everything you've learned, sort of put it out of your mind, and you just implement.
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There was one really hot one wearing these really cute pants, she had a camel toe and I got an instant erection, but I just didnt feel the right energy and vibe to approach her so I let her walk by without doing anything. Anyway, any pointers and advice?
You are feeling it for a girl, you go up to her, you preside over her and you let her know implicitly that you find her attractive (the mere fact that you approach with laid back energy lets her know this intuitively).

The idea is, let's see if this girl's got what it takes.

If not, who fucking cares.

Why?

Because, oh, look over there, another girl...


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I haven't had the opportunity to go this week.
I want to be able to not even put any effort into it and be successful. Is that even possible? For instance sometimes, I look around and see some guys struggling what to say, trying to hard to make an effort, I don't want to do that. I want them to look at my direction and see me making out with another girl. Is it possible to mentally get myself in that frame of mind, and be able to close with the minimum possible effort?


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I haven't had the opportunity to go this week.
I want to be able to not even put any effort into it and be successful. Is that even possible? For instance sometimes, I look around and see some guys struggling what to say, trying to hard to make an effort, I don't want to do that. I want them to look at my direction and see me making out with another girl. Is it possible to mentally get myself in that frame of mind, and be able to close with the minimum possible effort?
You've got to be quite lucid and in the moment, but not care about the outcome because you KNOW there is another girl right around the corner. Matter of fact, no matter the outcome you know you're going to be chatting up another girl in a few minutes time anyway, so whether this one "closes" or not does not matter in the least.


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Get in state. And get out there.

Focus on small steps at a time. So today maybe your goal is to just go out and get comfortable. Get used to people staring and concentrate on building a thick skin.

Next time, something else. Small steps.

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If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the years about approaching women is that THERE IS NEVER A PERFECT TIME TO APPROACH A WOMAN.

Pick up is sloppy bro, most guys think that if they aren’t constantly throwing clever banter lines out there that they won’t be able to get hot women. Sure, the hotter the woman the more banter you might need to spark attraction, but even the best pick up artists in the world get rejected. You will NEVER have a completely perfect interaction with a girl if you do it right. This is completely normal, and when you aren’t constantly Mr. Suave with women, it shows them that you aren’t just a player. And that you are actually a high status, honest, happy dude. Be vulnerable. This will express extreme comfort, and that is a high status quality.

REMEMBER, EVERY WOMAN WANTS TO FVCK THE HIGH STATUS GUY. It’s in their nature.

So go out, be confident, and most importantly, have fun with it.

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Hi guys, ok so im going to try to approach as many girls as I can. Im very out of practice. I might start at the train station where there are lots of people around, just to jump in at the deep end. What should I be thinking and how should I react if I get rejected in front of people and they are staring at me? I was going to try a couple of weeks ago but I choked because I was overloaded with information from pua books and audios that I was listening to and I kept trying to remember what to do, and so I didnt do it, while lots of nice women were around. There was one really hot one wearing these really cute pants, she had a camel toe and I got an instant erection, but I just didnt feel the right energy and vibe to approach her so I let her walk by without doing anything.
Anyway, any pointers and advice?
You have a lot to work on my friend.

First and foremost, stop reading material and listening to audio and watching videos and having wet dreams of Mystery and Style and Tyler or whatever. Basically, stop. I don't even need to tell you why it's bad... You underlined the reasons yourself. You're unable to think clearly unless someone tells you what to do? This leads me to the next point...

You need to trust yourself. How will a woman one day trust in you, rely on you and open herself up to you, if you don't even trust in yourself? You know what you want to do (speak to women). You know what you have to do (take action). What more do you need? Your opener is irrelevant, your conversation topics are irrelevant, your tactics will only hurt you. All she wants is to feel your masculine core. If she feels that, you can get away with anything. How do you accentuate your masculine core? You start by focusing. What do you want? Go and take it. There is only point A and point B - where you are and what you want.

Man up and take what's yours. Be a lion.
Keep me updated on how it goes.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:10 am 
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Not going to lie, I approached about 20 girls. Maybe more. All of them I got rejected from. One of them gave me their number but I didnt put it in my phone because I didnt want to get hung up on a onesie. My energy got unstiffled pretty early as well, I sung to this girl "you are so beautiful to me" on a packed train, to light applause. But she no sold it and kept listening to her ipod.
Some were very rude, they would like walk into a shop while I was talking to them. There was this really rude one, I wasnt really interested in her but I thought approach to build momentum, but I tapped her on the back and she was like "What are you doing!? Personal space" I tried not to react so I walked away.
I think it was my energy I gave off, because if would tetter throughout the day, some just were not interested. One of them I opened with on the train "you know I have been sitting next to you all this time and I didnt realise how damn beautiful you are" she found it funny, but then proceeded to mumble out everything she said, I kept taking the lead, asking questions and she sat there with her arms crossed so she wasnt keeping my interest.
Another one was doing graffitti, as I was talking to her, she packed up her cans and walked away. I was thinking, i must be sucking so bad at this.
I found myself asking alot of small talk questions "do you live near here, where are you going, what are you doing" stuff like that that I cant remember. I need more practise.


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I think it was my energy I gave off
Props to you man. Alot of guys would blame an externality. But you are wise and you recognize that it is all on you.

Interact with a girl in a classy manner as though you are interacting with your girlfriend, as though you already know the girl - not in a manner that you are trying to seek her approval or 'get' something from her. You radiate comfort and a calm vibe that implicitly says "I just got done having a threesome, now let's see what you've got." You don't tiptoe to the interaction, you glide into it like a feather.

Well done for approaching.


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what can I replace next time instead of all the small talk questions to open like ''how are you? what are you doing? do you live near here? what are you doing? where are you going? where are you from? how old are you? what are you doing after this?''
I found myself saying that often, and most of the time never went from the intro stage to the comfort stage. I don't want to make any effort at all next time and skip right to the escalation stage. That's the whole point of it isn't it?
There was one woman on the train who I talked about, I kept looking down at her legs as if to motion that I was going to rub my hand down her thighs. I wanted to but she wasn't giving me good vibes so I didn't do it and I didn't know if that was too far. Is that too far?


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what can I replace next time instead of all the small talk questions to open like ''how are you? what are you doing? do you live near here? what are you doing? where are you going? where are you from? how old are you? what are you doing after this?''
I found myself saying that often, and most of the time never went from the intro stage to the comfort stage. I don't want to make any effort at all next time and skip right to the escalation stage. That's the whole point of it isn't it?
The whole interaction needs to be in the "comfort stage." Thinking that comfort is just something you turn on or off is not conducive to picking up multiple women.

You mentioned transitioning to the "escalation stage." Try not to think of this as a sequential factual logical process. I know, we're guys, we're logical but the "escalation stage" for me often happens the instant I begin the interaction, a hand on the shoulder, whatever, getting her comfortable with my touch immediately.

Again, all done in a classy manner, always reading her signals. It's important to be socially calibrated or it will not work.

Think of it in this analogy: Smoothies are best when you mix all the ingredients together and drink it all at once. You don't mix the kale up and drink that alone. Then mix the apples up and drink that alone. Instead, you mix it all together and drink it at once.

Singing to a girl is showing me that you are in the frame that you have to be something or prove something to a girl to get her interest. Please know that you already possess everything required for a girl to automatically be interested and just your presence and the fact that you are talking to her is very flattering to a girl, know this.

The answer to your question isn't about getting her to say a certain thing or the content of what you say. Reflect a bit on the attitude mentioned in my last post above and try embodying this when you're in the field.

Your questions to the girls are fine; but don't have all the focus be on her: Remember, you are a man in demand so you talk about yourself as well and give her an idea of the kind of chill down ass mofo you are. Spike her curiosity so she wants to know more about you.

Try thinking of a topic you can talk to her about in the first minute or two that relates to whatever is going on in the immediate vicinity. This allows the two of you to feel out eachother's energy and for you to see if it is worthwhile to ask her about herself and to tell you about yourself. Again, PICKUP IS ABOUT AN ENERGY EXCHANGE, AND NOTHING MORE.

Going to a girl and putting all the focus on her and saying (not implying you are doing this), "YOU, stop, YOU look adorable, where are YOU from, let me guess YOU are from X, i like YOUR earrings, i like YOUR boots etc etc etc" rightly puts the girl on edge and sets the frame that you are so enamored with this other-worldly creature. Treat her like a fellow human being. Remember, she shits pisses and gets horny like anyone else.

Whereas when you glide into her life like the smooth dude you are, you can talk to her about about the manhole covers or the fucking sewer and get some sparks going right off the bat.

99% of the importance of picking up a girl is in HOW you say what you say, not in the content of what is said. You nailed it when you said you thought the reason for their reactions was the energy you were giving off. Focus on this.
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There was one woman on the train who I talked about, I kept looking down at her legs as if to motion that I was going to rub my hand down her thighs. I wanted to but she wasn't giving me good vibes so I didn't do it and I didn't know if that was too far. Is that too far?
You don't just start rubbing a woman's thighs off the bat. That's why it's called escalation. When you walk into a restaurant, they don't shove the food down your throat right away. They seat you, talk to you, bring you water, bring you something to drink, etc. Now, could this be pulled off? Sure, you like her yoga pants or something and comment on them and touch them, fine, but ONLY if she is already IOIng the shit out of you, not if she is sitting there looking disinterested.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:58 pm 
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I tried again today guys. I approached about 15-20 women. All of which rejected me. There was this one particular incident where I approached a girl, she turned me down, then when I turned around I saw her co-worker, who happened to used to be in the same class as me at college. I tried approaching her, then when I told her how I knew her, her pupils seemed to widen, and she was surprised when I told her what I knew of her. I feel like her interest was piquing until that other girl got involved and tried to embarasss me by asking me if im going to do this with every girl. I cant remember how I reacted, but when I turned my attention back to the girl I knew from college, she started walking off, her other co worker gave her a task as to divert her from me, and when I asked for her number she said that she is not allowed to give it at work, and she quickly walked away. Its a shame because I wanted to bone her at college, and I could see her face lighting up with interest before her friend got involved.
I didnt think about what to say I just went in and did it, and so after I noticed that I was jumping into asking for their numbers too quickly (and I heard every excuse in the book to not give me it today), and I feel like my energy was a bit outcome dependent sub conciously. Before i left i had expectations of getting about five kiss closes and lots of numbers. I need to keep practising. I want to become good at it.
Another one I approached after a couple of minutes of speaking to her, I put my arm around her and she actually took it off and cut across from me and walked into a shop, mainly because I was not thinking at all and I was not attentive to her cues.
Another thing I experimented doing was saying less and giving more eye contact. Some of the times when I was doing this, it seemed to make them talk more for some reason. I enjoy the process, but I dont like asking them lots of small talk questions because I find it boring.


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My guess is you were going direct given the immediate brush-offs. On the other hand if you were going indirect then your body language was potentially telling the girls that you were on a mission to chat up girls, rather than exploring this one girl individually and forming a connection with her and her only. Although I strongly suspect it was direct approaches, something along the lines of "I thought you were cute and I had to say hi to you."
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I feel like my energy was a bit outcome dependent sub conciously.
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Hi guys, ok so im going to try to approach as many girls as I can. Im very out of practice. I might start at the train station where there are lots of people around, just to jump in at the deep end. What should I be thinking and how should I react if I get rejected in front of people and they are staring at me? I was going to try a couple of weeks ago but I choked because I was overloaded with information from pua books and audios that I was listening to and I kept trying to remember what to do, and so I didnt do it, while lots of nice women were around. There was one really hot one wearing these really cute pants, she had a camel toe and I got an instant erection, but I just didnt feel the right energy and vibe to approach her so I let her walk by without doing anything.
Anyway, any pointers and advice?
start off with pre-opens, just say words to get her attention... this should get you warmed up! like stretching before a workout

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