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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:09 pm 
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Sup guys, so I am having troubles when I open I seem to turn girls off like right away. I used to base my game all on excitement, I learned night game from a random PUA book and it talked about having the most fun and smiling and what not, and so that's what I have been doing. But I have found that a demeanor change has helped a bit by being more calm and not smiling... kind of like this guy <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/RTuBf4BrIgE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Does anybody else run game like this? Almost expressionless, not even smiling game? Does it work?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:10 pm 
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http://youtu.be/RTuBf4BrIgE

Looks like the link didn't wanna work

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:16 am 
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You need to focus on naturalising your interactions. Being natural and normal is the number 1 priority when opening. In fact, is is very important throughout the interaction from start to end.

Also, you need to get away from thinking of an opener as a whole phase. The opener is not important. You need to have the mindset that you are going there to have a conversation, an interaction. View it as a whole, and approach it in as natural a way as possible.

Of course the opener is no indispensable. In fact every time you initiate an interaction, the first few lines you say, that is your opener regardless of what you say. And of course, changing the words that come out of your mouth can be a positive or a negative. Lets look at extremes. If you go up to someone and say, "you're extremely ugly". Well no matter how natural you say it, no matter how good looking you are, or how good you're body language is, chances are you'll get rejected, and probably scolded.

So the reverse is also true, some things you say can make the interaction go smoother. Although I must say, in my experience, the negative extreme end is way more likely to get you rejected, than a very good opener is likely you to get into an interaction. At the top end of openers, I think it only ends maybe a 10% more chance that she will allow you to continue in the interaction.

At the end of the day, if you avoid some very negative openers, the rest is depending on how you say it.

I must add, that the only part of opening that really matters, is whether it is appropriate for the situation. In a supermarket for example "i love pasta", said to a girl beside you who is looking at pasta too. Thats such a great opener. Its not even an "opener". Thats just shit normal people say in a normal situation. Savyy ? Good. Stop focusing on the opener. Anyone with half a brain can think of things to say.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:55 pm 
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Well I am naturally happy, and have this hyped up smiley type of demeanor. For instance if I go approach a girl on the street it's not what this guy does, it's really happy and having fun.. but it seems to turn girls off especially the hot ones

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:55 am 
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I think u can still get a good reaction from girls even if u smile and are happy. That's probably not the problem. Try and work on other things. Maybe your too nervous, or a bit too hypes up. Not Sure without more info.

But keep being happy man, if that's you, don't change that. Their loss.

World needs more happy anyway

Just tone down if it's in a creepy way or sth. Micro adjust

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:48 pm 
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I used to have a wing that ran his game like that. He said he wanted to be congruent and come across as cool, calm, and measured. I suppose it has it's benefits and drawbacks. Take someone exact opposite like a Tyler Durden, who'd go up to girls and push them and act all crazy. That can work too. I suppose the best thing to do is choose whichever strategy is closer in line with your natural personality. If you are forcing something that is not natural to you it will come across that way in set.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:35 pm 
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Ya know what I think I just needed to tone it down a bit. I learned this weekend its okay to go up and say hey whatsup calmly even in a club, you don't have to be super smiley and crazy just to get their attention, less flashy good game works too

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:01 pm 
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Think I have it figured out guys, changing my style up from the crazy party exciting guy, to the chill smooth guy and it has done wonders. I am decently charasmatic so I think I can run game like this.

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