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 Post subject: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:38 pm 
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I had three dates with this chick. On the third one, about to f-close, she gives me LMR ("but we are still getting to know each other, it's so early"). I try to win it by doing the "yes this is so bad yes you're right" and keep escalating shit, but she doesn't bite, so it ends in no sex.
Scheduled to see her tomorrow night, for "cuddling and movie"
She texts me today and we start talking. Seems like she is willing to come over and do the deed, but then withdraws
This is the convo we had. Question is, did I do anything horribly wrong? Or was she just being a tease overall and I didn't fare horribly?

A: I sadly saw the sunrise at my office today. :( Please tell me your day is going better.
Me: Poor little cutie! I decided to take a day off work so I called sick and am relaxing so yes I guess my day is going better in this respect.
A: Sick day. I'm jealous! What are you doing with your special day?
Me: Avoiding any and all house chores I should actually be doing. Being really comfy and thinking about lunch and a nap :-) isn't that all so awesome?
A: Yes. Thinking about a nap... psh, not fair at all. You'll be too rested up to enjoy more resting and said cuddling tomorrow night!
Me: You are underestimating my potential for comfiness and cuddling A!
A: I suppose so. However, as alluring as a day of plonching sounds, I can think of far better things to do with a free sick day. ;)
Me: I didn't know you were an expert sick day planner. Enlighten me. I might even follow some of your worthy advice :P
A: Well the thoughts h currently have require the participation of other willing people.
Me: Are you suggesting I hire a bunch of minions?
A: Not at all. Think along the lines of a popular song by the Starland Vocal Band. (it is Afternoon Delight, basically a song about banging)
Me: I see. I guess my next step would be searching for a willing companion for such amazing post-morning delight ;)
A: True. That's the hard part. However, if I had today free I would go for a hike or take a drive to no where. Or that darn Ukiah cause I really want to visit. But leftover chocolate cake (assuming you still have some) and a day of Netflix sound good too. :) (we had cake at our last date)
Me: (photo of cake) There is enough to wet two people's appetite ;) too bad you are disenchantedly documenting :P
A: Haha. You're not trying to tempt me are you. I'm currently eating carrots. Not fair. And I should be honest, it is far too easy to be bold on text.
Me: I would never ever for the life of me be tempting you away from carrots and into chocolate cake and Netflix :) what a horrible guy would I have to be to do such a thing? :P
A: Hm... No, you have to enjoy your free sick day by yourself. You took it for yourself anyway. I've just derailed you by talking about afternoon delights. I'll put my womanly powers away. :) And... Anticipation can be a good thing right?
Me: Womanly powers definitely sounds interesting ;) should I assume they were used in this conversation? :P
A: Yes of course they were! Isn't that obvious?! Maybe I'll "inspire" the rest of your lazy day activities.
Me: As already said, I was open to hearing your expert advice about activities to be undertaken in this afternoon and beyond.
A: I don't need to get specific and lewd do I? One can have delights by themselves. If I were you, I would eat that cake, take a hot shower, nap, maybe think some nice lewd thoughts, then proceed to Netflix.
Me: Hmmm.. That cake seems a little too much for just one person. I definitely stand by my idea that it is good enough for two people. And the lyrics approve of such a stance :P
A: Haha. Nah. I can't crash your party. And I'm being too bold via text. I shouldn't raise your expectations and level of anticipation. Sorry. We're still in the getting to know you stages. And I'm happy to be there. And now you know I'm a tad bit of a tease. :) so enjoy your cake!
A: And I also think I should hold out for you chocolate cheesecake at The Cheesecake Factory. ;)
Me: Oh we'll see about that. That is an especially guilty pleasure ;-)
A: Guilty pleasures are good. :)
Me: Good. Tempting. And dangerous.
A: How sweet. You're describing me.
Me: Are you trying to apply for my guilty pleasures list?
A: I need an application? You make it sound like you've got a waiting list.
Me: Oh well. We all know about the cheesecake. I am open to more, of course. Guilty and delightful pleasures.
A: Good. I'm delightful. Go enjoy your cake silly boy. Someone needs to enjoy it.
Me: ;) Will see you tomorrow, miss delightful.
A: See you then. :)

Haven't replied.

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:00 am 
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What you've done wrong is that you took on a Boyfriend frame before you even had sex for the first time.

You give her free attention, free validation, free release from boredom, while not getting anything you want in return.

You spend all day texting with her, which shows her that you have no options and reeks of neediness.

You're not her boyfriend, stop acting like one.

It's probably a lost cause, but go silent for a week or so and see if that gets a rise in interest level from her (right now, it's at about 0).

Let us know what happens after you NEXT her for a week and keep hitting on other girls.

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:24 pm 
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You spend all day texting with her, which shows her that you have no options and reeks of neediness.
More like an hour. But I do see the point.
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Let us know what happens after you NEXT her for a week and keep hitting on other girls.
I am seeing her tonight. If no f-close, I will follow your advice and let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:35 pm 
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Don't be a fucking moron and freeze her out for a week. That's the biggest overreaction you could possibly do when the girl is clearly into you. You've obviously done other things like getting head, poking her and all that crap so you obviously have something going on here, just missing out on the sex.

If you stop messaging her for a week right after not getting sex she's going to see you as an immature little shit who just wants to fuck her. If you have to freeze her out do it for a day or two MAX. NOT a week. That's just stupid.

What you're doing is fine. You're actually allowed text a girl and get along with them you know? PUAs can be friendly and they can spend an hour a day texting someone just keep it in moderation, keep the emotional rollercoaster going and don't come across as if you can message her back as soon as she messages when she messages but you can text in bulk and why not? No one's so busy all day every day that they can only message someone back every hour after they get a message. Do bulk messages like once a day if you need/want to but try space messages out.


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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:51 pm 
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interest level from her (right now, it's at about 0)
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the girl is clearly into you.
Did I mention how awesomely funny it is to be into pickup? :P
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You've obviously done other things like getting head, poking her and all that crap so you obviously have something going on here, just missing out on the sex.
There has been a steady escalation on the three previous dates, that is true. If there were nothing even vaguely sexual going on by now, I would have ejected before being LJBFed.
My point here is that of course I don't like being denied sex (who does?), and sets an unpleasant frame that she has the power to give/take sex from me, which is not where I want to be.
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just keep it in moderation, keep the emotional rollercoaster going and don't come across as if you can message her back as soon as she messages when she messages but you can text in bulk and why not?
That's fairly easy to do. She is not an heavy texter, and I am often busy at work. Yesterday was kind of special because I was out from work on a sick day, so I clearly was home doing nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:04 pm 
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A: I suppose so. However, as alluring as a day of plonching sounds, I can think of far better things to do with a free sick day. ;)
Me: I didn't know you were an expert sick day planner. Enlighten me. I might even follow some of your worthy advice :P
A: Well the thoughts h currently have require the participation of other willing people.
Me: Are you suggesting I hire a bunch of minions?
A: Not at all. Think along the lines of a popular song by the Starland Vocal Band. (it is Afternoon Delight, basically a song about banging)

She was clearly interested in you. She was also just teasing -- something she stated -- later on in the conversation which is a good thing.

Your problem is you didn't escalate with her and became an AFC. You should have been cheeky and probed her train of thought. You totally copped out when you suggested the minions... You flaked hard, dude. That was AFC and a turn off.

She's interested. You just need to escalate it sexually, especially when she gives you the cue to do so. Don't be too jumpy about getting into it but tease it out of her. For instance when she says willing people say something like "Oh, willing people? I might have someone in mind... depending on the activities, of course." She'll reply with something like "Like who? ;)" Then you just tease her and say it's a secret, keep her interest in this high, make her work for you to say "You." Of course you should describe her ("This sexy woman i've had a few dates with... long/short hair, tall/small, sexy body... She's an alright kisser I guess."). Just keep to the topic of sex and escalate it nice and steadily. She wanted sexual escalation and you failed hard man.

You need to take control and be the man she wants to imagine taking her from behind and fucking hard, making her scream your name.


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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:55 pm 
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A: I suppose so. However, as alluring as a day of plonching sounds, I can think of far better things to do with a free sick day. ;)
Me: I didn't know you were an expert sick day planner. Enlighten me. I might even follow some of your worthy advice :P
A: Well the thoughts h currently have require the participation of other willing people.
Me: Are you suggesting I hire a bunch of minions?
A: Not at all. Think along the lines of a popular song by the Starland Vocal Band. (it is Afternoon Delight, basically a song about banging)

She was clearly interested in you. She was also just teasing -- something she stated -- later on in the conversation which is a good thing.

Your problem is you didn't escalate with her and became an AFC. You should have been cheeky and probed her train of thought. You totally copped out when you suggested the minions... You flaked hard, dude. That was AFC and a turn off.

She's interested. You just need to escalate it sexually, especially when she gives you the cue to do so. Don't be too jumpy about getting into it but tease it out of her. For instance when she says willing people say something like "Oh, willing people? I might have someone in mind... depending on the activities, of course." She'll reply with something like "Like who? ;)" Then you just tease her and say it's a secret, keep her interest in this high, make her work for you to say "You." Of course you should describe her ("This sexy woman i've had a few dates with... long/short hair, tall/small, sexy body... She's an alright kisser I guess."). Just keep to the topic of sex and escalate it nice and steadily. She wanted sexual escalation and you failed hard man.

You need to take control and be the man she wants to imagine taking her from behind and fucking hard, making her scream your name.
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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:10 pm 
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She's interested. You just need to escalate it sexually, especially when she gives you the cue to do so. Don't be too jumpy about getting into it but tease it out of her. For instance when she says willing people say something like "Oh, willing people? I might have someone in mind... depending on the activities, of course." She'll reply with something like "Like who? ;)" Then you just tease her and say it's a secret, keep her interest in this high, make her work for you to say "You." Of course you should describe her ("This sexy woman i've had a few dates with... long/short hair, tall/small, sexy body... She's an alright kisser I guess."). Just keep to the topic of sex and escalate it nice and steadily. She wanted sexual escalation and you failed hard man.

You need to take control and be the man she wants to imagine taking her from behind and fucking hard, making her scream your name.
I was trying to do that with the whole minion thing, tease her a little. But yeah your flow is much better and I see what you’re saying. It was too cheesy and not sexual.

Lesson learned. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:37 pm 
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She's interested. You just need to escalate it sexually, especially when she gives you the cue to do so. Don't be too jumpy about getting into it but tease it out of her. For instance when she says willing people say something like "Oh, willing people? I might have someone in mind... depending on the activities, of course." She'll reply with something like "Like who? ;)" Then you just tease her and say it's a secret, keep her interest in this high, make her work for you to say "You." Of course you should describe her ("This sexy woman i've had a few dates with... long/short hair, tall/small, sexy body... She's an alright kisser I guess."). Just keep to the topic of sex and escalate it nice and steadily. She wanted sexual escalation and you failed hard man.

You need to take control and be the man she wants to imagine taking her from behind and fucking hard, making her scream your name.
I was trying to do that with the whole minion thing, tease her a little. But yeah your flow is much better and I see what you’re saying. It was too cheesy and not sexual.

Lesson learned. Thanks!
You were playing it safe. You need to play it a bit loosely. I've become quite the fan of being an asshole or just being out there. I have the personality and confidence to back it up like grabbing a girl telling her she's hot or something. I never get pegged down for it because i'm 1. Sober, 2. Confident and 3. I will stand my ground. It works extremely well. It's different in text game but when she's basically spelt it out for you you have to go all in. Sure, test the waters a bit but get out of the shallow end and into the deep sooner rather than later in situations like this.


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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:41 pm 
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She's interested. You just need to escalate it sexually, especially when she gives you the cue to do so. Don't be too jumpy about getting into it but tease it out of her. For instance when she says willing people say something like "Oh, willing people? I might have someone in mind... depending on the activities, of course." She'll reply with something like "Like who? ;)" Then you just tease her and say it's a secret, keep her interest in this high, make her work for you to say "You." Of course you should describe her ("This sexy woman i've had a few dates with... long/short hair, tall/small, sexy body... She's an alright kisser I guess."). Just keep to the topic of sex and escalate it nice and steadily. She wanted sexual escalation and you failed hard man.

You need to take control and be the man she wants to imagine taking her from behind and fucking hard, making her scream your name.
I was trying to do that with the whole minion thing, tease her a little. But yeah your flow is much better and I see what you’re saying. It was too cheesy and not sexual.

Lesson learned. Thanks!
He gave you really, really bad advice. Don't overtly talk about sex via text, with a girl you haven't banged yet. It bursts every iota of sexual tension between the two of you. I've lost EASY, GUARANTEED lays this way (once or twice).

It is far better to keep the tension going by NOT having these long-ass text walls with them, being coy, teasing a little bit, and dancing "around" the topic of sex without explicitly talking about it.

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 Post subject: Re: LMR over text :(
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:40 pm 
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All right, so this girl is officially killing me and turning my balls in every possible color

I had her over for movie last night. 10 minutes into the movie I started the escalation.
She complied up to the point of being on top of me with no shirt, but would not take the last step.. she put up a crazy amount of LMR
I even got asked the usual moronic female questions ("what are your intentions? what do you want from me? are you seeing other girls?" to which I just replied I want to keep seeing her and see what it leads to, that I am open to any and all outcomes, and that I felt we were having a magical moment and did not want it to go away, I think I got that line from someone at the skillsmethod website, so thanks!)
Nothing worked to fuck her. She was dry humping my cock, moaning.. I decided to go for all or nothing and just whipped it out. Did not work.
I am starting to feel she might have some major ASD thing going on, or some kind of mental blocks about sex. Honestly, I haven't had that slow of an escalation since I was 16 or something..

Has anyone had anything like this before? Would anything work, or is it just "either wait or next" at this point?

EDIT: I have more chicks than just this one, and still in love with my ex (however unfortunate that is), so oneitis is hardly a concern at this point

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