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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:51 pm 
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A few general ways to approach:

"Hey."

A question: "excuse me, do you know where I can find (commonly known place)." --- a lot of PUAs use this and quickly transition into a real conversation, but they think quick and have good timing.

Direct: "I just wanted to come over and say hi because I must say that you look unique - I'm really digging your style."

"Alison! What's uuu---ooh you're not Alison."


Good eye contact and a warm smile will instantly make any approach better.

The question opener is good. I always use either a question or opinion open.
Your opener doesn't need to be perfect, I discovered (much to my surprise) just this week that it doesn't even have to be delivered that well, and it'll still do the job of starting the conversation.
Due to time constraints I'm mostly doing evening game (the time of the day when everybody is heading home from work, so not quite day game or night game) so this may not be applicable to you, but I have found that stopping someone and asking if they know a decent cafe/restaurant works pretty well. It seems that if girls are in a rush and you ask for directions to a specific location they'll either not know or will give you a brief direction and walk on unless you hit them with something else, but if you ask for their opinion as well then it starts the conversation flowing and you can just take it from there. You can also ask for opinions on styles of clothing, shoes, colognes, hair, (especially if you happen to be stood outside an appropriate shop) or anything else you want to know.

Examples.
"Hey, do you know any decent cafe's/restaurants that would be open right now?"
(Whatever her first response is, it's wrong, you either don't like that kind of food or say "I said decent", then you can follow by asking here she'd go, etc, before changing topic)
"I need your opinion real quick. My friend and I were having this argument and we can't settle it. What are your thoughts on <mohawks/pink hair/earrings/those stupid bloody shoes with the long toes that make me think of Rumpelstiltskin/whatever you want to know>? "


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:23 am 
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testing on self indeed. isnt a woman like this just too difficult? i was always taught to try the women that showed interest in me. like the dude who doesnt know what to do with the pretty girl and goes numb and speechless - he is completely wasting his time. unless you enjoy the game only then why bother?

and as far as an approach line saying something like "Hey baby we can make it" might be as good as anything else. maybe it's all in the attitude
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But unfortunatley he does make one major mistake which is to walk alongside the women he approaches. It is far better to open and then stand still and continue talking after making an initial approach,
This is a really good point - if you're walking along side her it can make you look try-hard and desperate. That said, rules are made to be broken - so experiment as your milegae may vary! :)
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anyone have any advice of how to start talking to a girl as youre walking by her on the street without seeming predictable or creepy?
Why not try to approach her while trying to appear "creepy"? lol Personally, I routinely try to take myself out of my comfort zone by breaking ALL the rules! lol

I'll give you a quick example.

Monday: See pretty chick in park smoking. Ignored her. was just chilling.

Tuesday: Saw the same chick in the park sunbathing. I'm about 25 meters away from here. Didn't bother trying to approach, but saw some dudes try and fail.

Wednesday: Saw her in a secluded part of the same park sunbathing TOPLESS (which is extremely rare in that park).

So I thought, I know this chick isn't easy because the way she shut down the other dudes was straight up cold! BUT, at the same time, I know she is a little slut who wants to get fucked! lol

So, I decided to break all the rules and just see what happens! lol

Bear in mind she had showed me zero IOIs and plenty of IODs.

me: walks past close up like a perve looking out the corner of my eyes at her tits. (she has shades on but shes sees me)
me: sits about 10 - 15 meters away just staring at her tits lol (i know im supposed to make the move fast so this is full of fail in my book)
her: looks at me like wtf???
me: sits there enjoying the view (like a creepy perve lol)
her: slides her top on and then gets a phone call.
me: waits for phone call to end (i should have interrupted her phone call too but the test was hard enough for me already)
me: walks up to her thinking what's the worst line i could come up with?
her: looks at me like "please fuck off"
me: "sorry, but I couldn't help staring at your tits" lol (sometimes your lines can be so bad that they're actually good lol coz i think this conveyed to her that i truly dont give a fuck - I can guarantee nobody has ever approached her and said that before!)
her: you never seen a pair of tits before?
me: yeah, i seen quite a few. thats the funny thing about it.
her: listen, im misanthropic so could you please leave me alone.
me: wow, thats a long word. what does that mean?
her: it means i dont like people
me: okay, we have something in common then coz i dont like people either! lol
her: lols
me: so whats ur name?
her: blahblah (cant remember lol)
me: (pre-prepared) you know what blahblah, I've seen you three days running in this park and each time i've seen you you've had less and less clothes on, I'm hoping by tomorrow you're gona be completely naked! (smiles)
her: (silence) nice.
me: lol hey, i thought that was a good one! lol
her: (lols and smiles) wow, you dont give up do you?
me: you have no idea babe, I'm EXTREMELY persistent! (holds eye contact)
me: I knew you wouldn't be easy anyway.
her: how?
me: I saw you shut down some dudes yetserday lol
her: haha u saw that??
me: yh, i was watching from faraway, but I could tell. I told my dude "there is no way them dudes are getting thru" lol
her: yh, just like everybody in this park huh? lol
me: hahaha
me: I like u man - ur different. :)
her: smiles.
me: I'll tell u what gime ur num and we'll keep in touch - I think theres a reason I keep seeing you - we'll call this "business networking" lol
her: i dont give out my num, but I'll take urs.
me: nah 4get it then, I only exchange numbers - i dont give mine without receiving.
her: okay then u can take my email - thats more professional anyways.
me: okay cool

later found out she has a kid and lives with her dude (hence the reluctance to give out her number). actually bumped into her when i was with my girl and she was with her man and my girl knew her! lol she played it like a pro tho and didnt say a word.

I didnt follow thru on it tho as it was just target practice - took myself outside my comfort zone to test myself.

im not a pua so i dont know all the techniques or anything, I just wanted to share some shit from the point of view of a natural. i have a 100 similar stories many of which are much more outrageous, like moving from a chick straight up telling me to "FUCK OFF" (in a night club) to a threesome with that same chick and her friend in under 3 hours. (both, undisputedly the hottest chicks in the club)

if theres one critcism i wud have of some in the pua community its that they tend to overcomplicate shit (especially the instructors). its really not rocket science. it just boils down to confidence and not being afraid to fail.

if u try to stop urself looking like a creep, u end up actually feeling like a creep and that shit will fuck up ur game - u can never know how someone else truly perceives u. just try ur best to have fun with it and dont be afraid to bend or completely break the "rules". as the old cliche goes "rules are made to be broken!" ;)

good luck to all! :)


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:22 am 
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Here is a good street opener from the 1987 film The Pick Up Artist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHeWPeOafJU


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:04 pm 
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Me:Hey do you know where the closest tiki bar is?
Her:ummm?????
Me:im just fucking with you...you're really gorgeous and I had to talk to you

And continue from there ;)


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:19 am 
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It's best to say what you feel in the moment - be congruent. If you think she's hot - tell her she's hot, here's an example...

You: Hey, have you got the time
Girl: Sure (looking through purse for phone)
You: Wait, I've gotta be honest - I came over because I thought you were hot...

Boooooooooom!

Any questions - hit me up :=)

Zak


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
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thanks for all this information i really need this


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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:10 am 
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nothing you say can be creepy only how you say it

which means you need to just do it & get the experience until your delivery & frame are strong.

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 Post subject: Re: street opener?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:53 pm 
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Say hi, then whatever comes through your head, its all about your delivery and vibe, the most important thing in opener is holding eye contact. Seductive.

Also remember that you cant script your convo, girls would answer differently and you will come off as robotic/try hard.

Try less to do more.


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