Hi im coco im not that new to pick up, i started a few years but fainted interest early on. However i have been reading neil strauss's book The Game to boost my confidence back up and to get back on the market.
Something strange happened on friday night i was going out in Dublin where i live for the summer and i drank about a 50cl of vodka before entering the nightclub with neil's words of wisdom fresh in my ear i became drunk quite soon but what happened next was that i found my self before i even knew talking to various different groups of girls for the whole night kiss closing twice. However i went out last night and i was sober and i found myself far too afraid to approach women making excuses in my head as i went to talk to them. So in the end i talked to none. Why could this be does anyone know? I personally think i could do pick up quite easily if i was sober if i had a list of things to say in my head before i approached as i always end up reverting to where are you from? and the conversation running completly dry there after.

So can you try and compile me a list of of things i should do including an opener that isnt cheesy (as if you go over to a girl in ireland and say "who lies more boys or girls" you would laughed out of the nightclub by everyone!) so everything from an opener to the kiss close.

Thanks for the help greatly appreciated!

haha that is an irish thing to drink lol. em it isn't unusual not be able to talk to women. but here are some you can try

'what's your oppinion on giving your phone number?'
'is it a good night?'

gluck

You are developing your social personality when you are drunk and when you are sober, you aren't the same person. Stop drinking. Start just being social LIKE you are drunk. Get reference experiences.

I would bet that you could use any opener on this site (regardless of where you are from) and it would be successful in starting an interaction with some girls. Your ability to carry on the conversation will develop by actually having interactions and again, getting reference experiences, so you can remember what works and what doesn't.

You see, when you drink, your brain isn't working... I would bet if you would say and act the same way as you did drunk (based on your story) if you were sober, you would be able to build off of those successes by remembering what worked and what didn't. Stop drinking when you go out. Or atleast don't get drunk like that... I limit myself to 3 maybe 4 beers during the night if I even drink at all. I will tell you from personal experience, that if you want to get good, you have to go out ALOT. And if you go out alot... drinking even 3 or 4 beers a night can get VERY expensive. 4 beers a night at 5 bucks a beer. Thats 20-25 dollars a night after tip. 4-6 nights a week... You are talking about 100-150 bucks a week on BOOZE.

Just take it easy on the drinking and go out more. You need to be a guy who can have fun and be social with out alcohol.

No girl will take you serious when you are drunk.

My opener is always a simple "Hi. How are you?".
It's not what you say. It's more what you project. I try to project a big smile and interested, lively eyes which comes naturally when I talk to a gorgeous girl.

I ask few basic, standard questions about who she is, tell her a bit about myself and by then we already found a topic that interests us both.

We got rapport and she is comfortable with me. I can try to seduce her or offer another meeting.

I am probably the most sober person where I live especially for an 18 year old (all of my friends drink). Now we all know how being drunk can temperately seal of the fear of approaching girls or simply having fun and not giving a shit. I know this from observing "drunks" (not bums but people getting drunk). From my experience you can and most likely will get better feedback and more attention from being the "Sober Drunk" as I like to call it.

your absolute BEST, most versatile & dependable opener is just to smile and say hi.

now the tone of your voice is gonna determine the reaction

if you say hi like a little girl it's gonna be a insta-blow out.

but if you put some bass in your voice and say Hey, whats up...

she's gonna fill in the empty space with feminine flirtatiousness & giggly excitement

The best best best opener is a simple Hey, Whats up [insert random open ended question here]

& then respond to her with smart ass-ism's and funny remarks...

Now if you can't pull this off is probably because your way too tense and neurotic.. I'm actually kinda working on something for that now.. elliot hulse (crazy fitness guy on youtube) talks alot about neurotic holding patterns and how our bodies respond to stress and tension by tightening up & how we need to express ourselves and let it all out in order to do somewhat stressful stuff like approach girls, risk rejection etc.

hope that helped, if your interested in the neurotic holding patters stuff just let me know, I might do a blog post on it when I get a little more experience with testing myself in the field after doing some of his exercises.

ALSO

I'd guarantee you could kill with "who lies more" if you delivered it right..

AY... Who lies more? men or women? *she say's something* LIAR, see you proved it, I knew you women were liars... HA *watch her get all giggly and qualify herself*

you gotta deliver it as the buyer and not the seller... You put HER on the spot, not vice versa.

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you shouldn't game drunk until you can game sober, or else you wont be able to game sober. Gaming sober is half of the game out there (daygame) so its crucial. I say get good at sober game, then if you want a few drinks to make things flow, that's okay.

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Like every one here, i agree alcohol and Game don't mix well... You need all your senses during seduction...
Though getting drunk definitely helps to kill fear of the approach, it's not the solution to improve your Game.

Stay sober and observe what's going on after midnight, most of the guys are drunk and extremely obnoxious to woman. If you chat women up soberly, it gives you a huge competitive advantage...