My opening game is weak, AA is obviously an issue. But everyone gets AA right, I approach women but I feel like if your direct you already give them all the power and once you've been brushed off, it's pretty hard to recover. (Especially in night clubs where the musics loud and you have to be close and speak really loud to be heard).

Once a conversation gets going I'm in my element I don't run out of things to say and I'm usually pretty funny. But a lot of the openers here are neutralized by the environments I'm out in.

So do you have any openers for LOUD club environments?

Also, since I turned 18 (drinking age in england) I've always got pretty drunk on nights out, recently I've pulled it back a bit so I can be on my game. But after going out and getting wasted every night I sometimes feel a awkward? Anyone else dealt with this?

(to a HB9 or 10 only) "You look like you get no attention from guys whatsoever..." She laughs and you continue the conversation
I have too experienced this in the past. I would say have a few less drinks and you'll reap the benefits in the long term

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(to a HB9 or 10 only) "You look like you get no attention from guys whatsoever..." She laughs and you continue the conversation

Thats a heavy line! defiantly gonna have to drop that one!
I'm new to this and also only 18 , so its quite intimidating approaching a large group of older girls!

I guess it's always good to start small and work up to large groups of older girls, no rush...we're all in this together!

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Thanks, I'll drop that line when I'm out see how it comes off.