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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:51 am 
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Ok guys i need some advice on approach I thought it might work on girls you see on street every day. Since I always go on foot to college and usually avoid using traffic for doing every day jobs i find many beautiful girls passing by.
My question is how do you approach some of them since there is not much time for you to act, and if you manage to approach you maybe have one or two minutes to get her number.

Since I'm total newbie at this i carefully read the forum and took some of the already proven lines and techniques/routines and tried to put together something like this but I am unsecure of using it.

Imagine the situation where you walking at the street and you see a HB. You probably have few seconds for reading her IOI (Usually eye contact or a smile).

So, to approach you have to pass by her and turn shortly after and say:
You: Hey... Can I ask you something but you have to tell me honestly. What is that in you that make you so attractive to other people?
HB: Any answer will do, but probably she would be confused.
You: You are obviously pretty girl but there so many beautiful girls out there. But you know what's really rare to find? (MM method)
HB: She would probably be curious.
You: Three things: A great energy, a good sense of humour and a great outlook on life (try point something about her that can relate to this), and thats what attracted me to you at first place (trying to kino her).
HB: Not sure how she might respond to this, but I would probably look for some IOI and continue.
You: At least can I ask you for your name? (giving her hand to shake hands but not letting go)
HB: Whatever name she says
You: Make a compliment about it (still holding her hand waiting for her IOI while distracting her by continuous eye contact. another IOI).
You: Ether wait few seconds if she asks for you name (another IOI) or tell her yours straight away.
You: (probably time to close the approach). Hey, can i ask you a second question? Would you even consider of staying in touch or maybe go for a drink sometimes?

So there are three possible answers i could get?
Yes, Maybe and No.

In case she says yes I would probably asked her about how can I contact her and ask for a number.
In case she says maybe I think of saying something like.. "cmon you have to admit that it took some courage to approach you, can you give me some credit." (i hope she would start to giggle and eventually i would number-close her).
But if she answer no to question i'm currently asking or if she says no straight away i'm not sure if she realy mean that (probably do) and if i should try to pusher a bit more to get things done (not sure how), but i would probably say something like "ok *her name* excuse me for bother you so long (look at the watch) i wish you good day (and back off).

Now I'm not sure how this can work and i'm asking for an opinion of a more experienced pua-s to give me some suggestions and advices. There are still many other question i want to ask but ill probably make a new post or expand this one with a questions that bothers me.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:13 pm 
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In my own experience I've had some problems with with predefined routines and this are:

They get boring for me after a while.
I do not make any real connection with anybody.
I end up being seen as a creepy manipulative weird guy.
Instead of enjoying the interaction I just get a lot of anxiety of what to do next once I run out of routines to say.
In my head I already have the scenario of how should I do it and in reality this scenarios never happen, this usually makes me act as a robot or find excuses of not to do things because it just did not happened as it was in my head.

But anyway maybe routines are good for you so here are my comments about your routine:
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You: Hey... Can I ask you something but you have to tell me honestly. What is that in you that make you so attractive to other people?
Many girls do not believe that they are attractive to others... Have you heard the phrase beauty lies on the eye of the beholder? it is 100% accurate... Your horniness and believes about beauty is what makes her attractive to you... her self-esteem is what will make her be attractive to herself. I think that once in rapport, knowing her more it can be a good question to ask... Right at the beginning without knowing her I think that is a really creepy question to ask.
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You: You are obviously pretty girl but there so many beautiful girls out there. But you know what's really rare to find? (MM method)
HB: She would probably be curious.
She probably will be curious about when you are going to shut up and leave or when you are going to sell her a miracle product.
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You: At least can I ask you for your name?
Why would a stranger who just told me crazy stuff want to know my name?
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You: (probably time to close the approach). Hey, can i ask you a second question? Would you even consider of staying in touch or maybe go for a drink sometimes?
No way, you are just weird and creepy.

Again that is my opinion you better try it yourself.
In theory MM might work because you open in a way that is completely indirect and that would be impolite not to answer. Then you gain some little time to show your value through certain conversation tactics, where you display your high value (being a leader of man, a protector and pre-selected by woman) and then once you have enough IOIs you can add a new routine telling that suddenly you start to find her attractive.
If you do not do those steps in that order you'll end up as a creepy clown.

My opinion is that during day game on the streets if you want to create a routine you should first decide if you'll go direct or indirect... Both of them have advantages and disadvantages...
Advantages of direct:
is not creepy, is more natural, is more genuine.
Disadvantages:
requires a lot of balls,
the possibilities of being rejected at the moment are HUGE.

Examples of direct:
(Any Compliment) and that is why I had to come and talk to you.

Advantages of indirect:
It polite for her to answer back
You can start building a favor ladder ( if you ask for something small and she replies in a good way your chances to ask for something bigger later on increase a lot)
Disadvantages of indirect:
At some point you'll need to turn it into direct and that requires certain skills and probably much more balls than going direct from the beginning.

Examples of indirect:
What time is it?
Where can I find _____?
At what time _____ ?

Second thing you have to consider is her reality at the moment, she is probably in a hurry, has things to do and do not have much time to talk to strangers... A good thing is that you do not need to say something impressive, super funny or super interesting to catch her attention because she is not being approached by strangers all day long, a bad thing is that you have to be quick.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:27 pm 
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First I want to thank you for your answer and observation and it was very helpful. After reading it, I see how creepy this approach looks. I totally understand what you wanted to say about direct/indirect natural approach as not being aggressive as what I proposed.
I don't have problem talking to girls in general but only to those I like so I thought predefined routines like this might help me override my anxiety and neediness to be in control. You know what my best friend (shes a girl) says is that I tend to overthink too much.
I still have to learn and practice and nice reply like yours realy help. Thx again.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:27 pm 
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In PU one of the most common phrases is: "Attraction is not a choice". They might be right with that I'm not sure and I can't prove it. But accepting or rejecting you, giving the phone number, treating you nice, starting a relationship with you, slapping you, rolling their eyes pretending to ignore you are all choices that women make over the ones you have no control of them.

You might see a woman and you'll find it attractive or not and probably you have no choice over that perception. Still that doesn't mean that just because you find her attractive you'll immediately stop doing whatever that you are doing and go to approach her and try to convince her to have sex with you now. All the things you do after seeing an attractive women are choices that no matter what she does she has no control over them.

We all want to have control over the reactions that the persons we like have over us, yet it is not possible. A routine involving a loaded gun pointing to her head asking her kindly to give you her phone number will help you to have a little bit more of control over her choices, but still you wont be able to have 100% of control over her and the situation.
Instead of coming up with a perfect routine try to check where does the neediness of being in control comes from, probably is because of fear of rejection, fear embarrassment, fear of getting hurt, fear of converting someone into a person that hates you, etc. Work with those fears, put them into perspective(they are just a distorted version of reality), learn to accept them, embrace them as a part of you, but do not let them do your choices...
Also try to cultivate your curiosity for others and the real world, it will help you to spend more time experimenting than over thinking.
Nothing bad with over thinking I think over thinkers are the persons with whom to have the best chats... but there is a time for action too. Just look for a balance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:26 am 
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Wait, you are in your first two lines saying that you are attracted to her, but are asking her why people are attracted to her?

Wouldn't you admitting your attraction also admit that you know the answer to the question?

I like the style though. The style seems like the genuine tender doe style. You are a tender doe. And she is a tender doe.

That actually reminds me of Don Juan. Tender Doe+Sex= Don Juan.

You are seducing her with honesty and personality quizzes, but you seem to be seducing her into being friends.

Which is definitely one route into a relationship, which I think is awesome (though I'm guessing obviously).

The Intimacy honesty direction, can be emotionally taxing though, so just got to learn how to properly share emotions without actually seeming incapable of depressed. *shrugs

I could be way off here. I think I should say that once in a while. It's part of the honest approach after all :) hahaha


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