Hey friends, not really sure where this should be posted and this question has probably been asked many times before, but after reading about game on here incognito for the past two weeks, I'm desperate. There is this girl, who I've basically really liked since we first met 3 YEARS ago.. But I am really shy and don't have the disposition to confidently go out there and get a girl. We became best friends, and have been for 3 years. I thought my feelings would have died down by now, but they haven't, and I feel I have to get it out to her.

I would like to do so in the most successful way possible, and if there is any way it might come out in a romantically positive fashion, I would be ecstatic.
My biggest problem is that I KNOW she only thinks of me as her confidante, best friend, brother.... friendzoned. I know it is common to believe it is impossible to get out of the friend zone but if there is ANY possibility, I would like input on how to make this work with my shy disposition, especially since I know someone else is moving in on her..

I'm a 2nd year college student with very little experience but since I've got here I have gamed amateurly a little bit with some success, even losing it this year, but I just don't feel it; it's not her. Thank you all so much in advance for reading and your responses. Looking forward to becoming a larger member of this community.

Rafi

look this is going to sound counter-intuitive, but you need to turn your attention to other women. if you focus all your heart and energy (like you are now) into this one chick it seems pretty creepy. why do you "have to have" this girl like she's your object to just have? You need to make pickup about yourself, not some girl.

Because what if she ends up rejecting you still? learning pickup isn't really the magic bullet people think it is, but just a tool that only the well versed can wield well. Sure you can learn a technique or story here and there, regurgitate it, and it can possibly work, but how long are you going to keep the charade up? Eventually you're going to have to reveal your true self and your true self might not be what she was attracted to in the first place. This is of course, assuming you plan on keeping her around.

So what i'm saying is, if you want to have many women in your life and even her, focus on other women and think in abundance, not scarcity because when something is scarce, people get desperate and desperation is extremely unattractive to females. Well i think im saying that. (idk im kinda high).

Anyway, pickup is more of a self-improvement process that takes time vs. the "mind control" the media portrays it to be. So yeah, if you want mad bitches, welcome.

Also its been 3 years and you havent done shit with her yet? you really need to move on, and hope you get together by chance after she sees how much of a stud you are.

In the process. Gamed two babes at a Frat party this weekend (took one home). I AM open to variation, but currently I was just thinking in terms of 'now'. I guess I can't help that she's my endgame currently but I AM here to work for self-improvement, and I know PUA is a playground to tinker and practice with over a long time. Still tough, ya know?

It sounds to me like you need to build up some confidence in yourself before you attempt anything with this girl. You have already spent 3 years waiting right? So why not spend three months working on your confidence first. Reflectively it's not a long wait. Get comfortable in you own skin. Make conversation with any and all women you come across. Even if the intent is not to take them home. Build up some experience in the field. That is my advice to you.

What I would do if i were you is the same with something added. After I became confident in my ability to open sets, entertain, and close. I would bring her along on a sarge as my pivot. Teach her a few of the things you have learned. As you start gaining the attention of other attractive women, it will give you a boost in social proofing that could help bump you out of the friendzone and back into a prospect of a sexual partner. I am not saying it will happen the first time you take her out sarging. I do think it will help though. Just make sure you confidence is where it should be. Through the roof. Hope it helps.

Cheers mate.

It's about self-destruction my friend. Your ego is getting in the way. You can't accept the fact that you're just a "friend."

Take yourself down a notch and BE HUMBLE. The faster you accept the situation, the sooner you can move on and find someone better who ACCEPTS you as a lover, and not just a friend.

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The only way out of the friend zone is to cut off contact for a while.

Change your style, get in shape, get a haircut etc. in the meantime to give the impression you have changed. After a while, she will wonder why you're not staying in touch. Anything up to 2 months is acceptable. Then when she contacts you and you're ready to treat her differently, meet up with her and be a completely different person. Touch her right off the bat and start using heavy eye contact. Increase touching to see how comfortable she is with it. Escalate if she rolls with it. Never ask permission and never apologise, even if she rejects you. You can't help the way you feel, so you have no reason to be sorry.

If she is grossed out, then just eject and explain that you can't be friends with her because you have developed feelings and this is why you were ignoring her for the past few months. If she rejects you, do NOT remain friends with her, no matter what she says. This kind of friendship with a girl will not give you social proof or pre-selection, it will just re-inforce your views on being a nice guy.

Jus' sayin'.