so guys,before getting into pua and going to parties and kissing random chicks,the things were slow for me.i would have to talk to a girl for a while,spend some time before kissing etc then move slowly etc.but now things go faster in a night but there is this girl,we have been hanging out for a couple of days and we went to have a nightwalk.then we layed down on the grass and just talked.then i tickled her alot and we had lots of kino,getting close etc.i didnt kiss her,idk i was scared but i was always telling to myself if you dont kiss her now,you will be friendzoned.so how does this work can someone enlighten me like what if i spend some time with her before doing something,does that put me directly to the friendzone? thanks guys

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oh i forgot to say,i did lots of DHVs like fuck load of them so she kinda looked up to me.just putting it here as extra info so that makes a spark between me and her?

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There's no timeline as such. It's about the quality more than the quantity I believe. If you give too many "friendly" vibes early on, you're in the friendzone early on. You give the friendly vibes slowly, you'll be in the zone in a slightly longer period of time. That's what I think.

As for your situation, you've to start being a challenge and a threat. And not a friend. RIGHT NOW.

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thanks alot for your answer man,but can you be more specific? being a challange ok i got that so not be available and be seen with other girls.being a threat?i didnt get that one? thanks man!

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Alright. Well you see, when a woman "friendzone"s you or is in the process of doing so (i.e. the things are going in the direction which is likely to put you in that zone), she sees you essentially as a "nice guy".

Now by "threat" here, what I mean is not the prima facie meaning of threat. The context here is society. You've to stop being the "nice" one to her. She shouldn't feel like even if she messed up, since you're such a nice friend of hers, you'll let her go free or take shit from her. You've to imbibe the feeling of "submission" in her, if you get what I mean.

(Lame) Example:

HB: You're so gay.
You (taking shit): Shut up, I'm not! Don't call me gay

You (threat): Stfu. Just because I wouldn't fuck you doesn't mean I'm gay. I'd do you so well you'd - bla bla bla -.

You're threatening enough to give her shit back and to make a confident move as and when you deem it fit.

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thanks man,i understand.but i realised i didnt give you enough info about this.i already do that haha.im negging her all the fucking time in a playful way im not the nice guy that takes the shit,she knows me by now because of the DHV stories i tell her like when i go to a party and make out with 2 chicks etc and last night,she called me a manwhore and i was like i will be a manwhore until i fall in love.so that gets the message as im not needy and the second; now she will want to tame me as in try to make me fall in love with her.in my opinion things are going well so far BUT i really gotta make a move SOON. tonight she invited me to a nightwalk again,we will probably end up in the grass again laying down.she is already comfortable with my touches and i might make a move tonight.if i dont have the balls,i ll invite her to party with me tomorrow,we get some drinks,everything will be fucking easier. so now u know the all thing haha,anything you want to judge? like please tell me if you see some mistakes i have done or im doing.thanks man:)

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hey quick update bro,i was just watching a movie with her in her room but her roomate was there too.she sat on my lap and like her arm was on my shoulder and she kept moving her fingers on my shoulder u know what i mean so ok im sure now that she is interested.i would so make a move today but her roommate was in the fucking room damn.but its all good,i got the iois i need,tomorrow we ll party with her.its all done tomorrow,thanks for ur advices bud

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uhm that escalated quickly haha she just send me a text saying she likes me and she has butterflys blabla but now i kinda lost my interest im not chasing anymore wtf haha anyways

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I read an article from a girl who indicated--in different terms--that she would friend zone guys first before she was friend zoned. Basically, if the guy didn't make the move quick enough she felt he was not interested and move on by putting him in the friend zone.

I'm not certain what the timeline is. I would write you did a great job from what I read. Try it again and find out.

antics31 yeah man i know there is a certain time but i guess depends on the girl you are with and the situation etc but yeah this time i got the timing good.i was just afraid of falling into friendzone

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