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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:01 am 
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Hello everyone, first post here. Let me start off by saying that I've always been a Beta male my entire life, more leaning towards Omega at my very early ages (10-12) than anything else, although I have shifted to the Alpha side of things. I'm fifteen years old and would like to break out of that Beta shell that I know is holding me back from so much. I'm one that would be considered a nerd, since I'm identified gifted and really lack social confidence.

At school, I have quite a few friends, but I find it depressing that every single attractive girl I'm friends with or know puts me in the friend zone immediately since I don't know how to build up attraction. If any of you have any tips for this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.


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well, first of all, u seriously need some confidence lessons...
u know what helped me build up my confidence? a new theory of life.
here it is:
THIS IS MY WORLD. THE REST ARE JUST VISITORS

i put myself on a pedestal. if i dont like smthn, i ban it from my world (of course u cant ban anything out of this world, but it makes u feel better pretending that you CAN)
for example, if i go and open a set of chicks, and i dont do good, when i leave, i just say to myself "ok ill ban them" it doesnt really give me that power but since i will prolly never see the chiks again, its as if i have really baned them out of existence.

this is the first step mate.
Picking up women is not just about hooking up with nice chicks.
its about socializing yourself (at least thats the way i think of it). win the men and u will win the women,
try to be more social, talk to more people, make new friends and remember that in your world, u set your own rules. those that cant play by the rules, either leave or get kicked out (meaning that u can keep close to you only the things u like ;) )


once u achieve this different lifestyle, u will find that picking up women isnt hard at all

but as i said, first of all, be more confident ;)

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That's really helpful, but I'm just not understanding the whole psyche of a popular high schooler. It's like trying to decipher a blank book because so many people rarely show any signs of emotions meaning that I have no idea what to do or say. Should I just try to act like everyone's interested in talking to me or just back off and try to do my own thing?


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the whole psyche of a popular high schooler
well, its not really smthn important. u are becoming social for yourself, not for the image you give to the others...
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so many people rarely show any signs of emotions meaning that I have no idea what to do or say.
this is just the beginning. once u get more actively into the game, u will find that with a bit of practice u will be able to evaluate almost any situation and act accordingly. of course u dont know what to do or say right now cuz u are a beginner ;)

failure is bound to come, so dont worry. u can go from nerd to cassanova in one day ;)
experiment a bit with the info you will find here and day by day u will see that u will slowly build your own style ;)

one last thing. my experience has told me that when u pick up a chick, confidence is 99% of the success (not looks, not attitude, confidence)
u can say pretty much anything to sm and say it with such a way that the others will believe it ;)
as if u are a friggin lawyer :P

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Takoulya I know what you mean.
I am also academically gifted, and although the word nerd is not one I like to use to describe myself, I find that I do it fairly often, I guess I am somewhat luckier that I go to an academic institution where most people are similar to me. The flip side is that whenever I went to hang out with friends of friends, or went to parties with people from other schools I would get blown out of the water.

I have been trying to become alpha for some time now, with some success. Some of the things that I found have helped:
-I don't know if you have to where a uniform into school like I do, but even if you do, get yourself a really nice set of clothes, and be really picky too, don't settle for anything but what you want, trust me, when you do this, and get an ensemble that works, you just feel like you are worth a million dollars every time you wear it.
-Obviously you have to act alpha, to do this, I taught myself how to strut, at first I was worried that everyone would think I was a prick, some do, but it just oozes confidence, because in an alpha's mind, the world is theirs, so they don't need to hurry, because the world can wait for them.

I'll try and think of a few more for you
-Sweep


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the whole psyche of a popular high schooler
well, its not really smthn important. u are becoming social for yourself, not for the image you give to the others...
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so many people rarely show any signs of emotions meaning that I have no idea what to do or say.
this is just the beginning. once u get more actively into the game, u will find that with a bit of practice u will be able to evaluate almost any situation and act accordingly. of course u dont know what to do or say right now cuz u are a beginner ;)

failure is bound to come, so dont worry. u can go from nerd to cassanova in one day ;)
experiment a bit with the info you will find here and day by day u will see that u will slowly build your own style ;)

one last thing. my experience has told me that when u pick up a chick, confidence is 99% of the success (not looks, not attitude, confidence)
u can say pretty much anything to sm and say it with such a way that the others will believe it ;)
as if u are a friggin lawyer :P
I see, thank you, but again the problem I'm usually encountered with is not actually knowing what to say to people. Sure I can strike up a great, meaningful conversation for a minute or so, but beyond that, they usually end so quickly that their hard to pick back up and steer in another direction. I will definitely try to increase my confidence, though.


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Takoulya I know what you mean.
I am also academically gifted, and although the word nerd is not one I like to use to describe myself, I find that I do it fairly often, I guess I am somewhat luckier that I go to an academic institution where most people are similar to me. The flip side is that whenever I went to hang out with friends of friends, or went to parties with people from other schools I would get blown out of the water.

I have been trying to become alpha for some time now, with some success. Some of the things that I found have helped:
-I don't know if you have to where a uniform into school like I do, but even if you do, get yourself a really nice set of clothes, and be really picky too, don't settle for anything but what you want, trust me, when you do this, and get an ensemble that works, you just feel like you are worth a million dollars every time you wear it.
-Obviously you have to act alpha, to do this, I taught myself how to strut, at first I was worried that everyone would think I was a prick, some do, but it just oozes confidence, because in an alpha's mind, the world is theirs, so they don't need to hurry, because the world can wait for them.

I'll try and think of a few more for you
-Sweep
Hey, great to see some advice from someone in the same boat as me. I wouldn't think of myself a nerd in front of the popular crowd at all since I easily change mindsets depending on the situation, but it gets almost funny trying to manage both mindsets in a class with both my other gifted friends and the popular crowd. I do walk with a confident demeanor most of the time (back straight, chest out) but as mentioned before, it's hard for me to consistently keep a conversation fresh. Also, I never bother asking male friends to hang out or chill, subconsciously because I can't work up the courage. Thank you for the advice!


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I see, thank you, but again the problem I'm usually encountered with is not actually knowing what to say to people. Sure I can strike up a great, meaningful conversation for a minute or so, but beyond that, they usually end so quickly that their hard to pick back up and steer in another direction. I will definitely try to increase my confidence, though.
why dont u try a canned conversation ;)
thats also in the PUA's armory. u can plan the general structure of your conversation ahead of time. of course, u wont plan it word by word, 'cuz u never know how the convo will develop.
just have a plain structure in mind. when ure done with one subject, move on to the next.

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I see, thank you, but again the problem I'm usually encountered with is not actually knowing what to say to people. Sure I can strike up a great, meaningful conversation for a minute or so, but beyond that, they usually end so quickly that their hard to pick back up and steer in another direction. I will definitely try to increase my confidence, though.
why dont u try a canned conversation ;)
thats also in the PUA's armory. u can plan the general structure of your conversation ahead of time. of course, u wont plan it word by word, 'cuz u never know how the convo will develop.
just have a plain structure in mind. when ure done with one subject, move on to the next.
Awesome, I'll be sure to try that, thanks!


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It's great that you're getting this area of your life handled at such a young age. I was actually 17 when I got into pickup, when I was at my absolute lowest point in life. If I had only have removed some of my limiting beliefs that caused me to fail socially at a younger age, I would have been much much better off now. So getting into fixing your social problems at this age will be much easier for you than if you were older and more set in your ways.

You say you are very intelligent. That's definitely a good thing, especially when you get older. People may look at you like you're a nerd now, but in a few years your intelligence will separate you from the crowd. It will also make learning game a much smoother road.

The first thing you need to do when starting out is to, as other people have already pointed out, get some confidence in yourself. There are several ways you can go about this, affirmations, NLP techniques, sarging, but the one that helped me the most was finding something that I was genuinely good at, and for me, that area was filmmaking. When I was in high school I was known (after I got into pickup and realized the importance of having a great skill like that) for my abilities to tell a great story with a video camera, and I got lots of praise and recognition in my school after that. My teachers were baffled and all my classmates were paying me to make movies for them. My confidence in myself soared and I realized there was something I could do better than anyone else, and for the first time in my life I was comfortable in my own skin. All you need to do is find that area that you're particularly good in, (everyone has one) and you'll always have a source of confidence to fall back on when you're in a dry spell with the ladies.

The second step is actually going out and practicing. If you have approach anxiety, just go out and say "hi" to everyone you see for one day. It sounds ridiculous, but it will get you out of your comfort zone a little. The next day, try to chat up a stranger. A kid, the guy giving you your cheeseburger, the old lady on the bus, it doesn't matter. Just ask them how they're doing or talk about the weather or something. The next time, you really need to get out of your comfort zone. I recommend dressing like an idiot and going out and trying to embarass yourself as much as you possibly can. Stick your finger up your nose and go ask someone if they know where McDonalds is, say, "Hi, I'm Manny the martian. What's your favorite color of ice cream?" Whatever. You'll see some hilarious examples of this on a series of youtube videos called "simple pickup" you might want to check out. They're absolutely fantastic. Just do whatever you can to get out of your own head and not care what people think about you, and you'll be ready to start talking to pretty girls. Basically just go out and have fun with it. If you change your goal from "I have to get her number" to "I just want to go talk to her and see if she's cool" it will take loads of pressure off of you and make it much more fun.

Well, I've rambled on long enough. You've got enough info here to get you started. Good luck in your pickup adventures!

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