Hey guys so finally 18 as of nov 11, and have been goin out about 3 times a week with the occasional weekend off but ive noticed since going to clubs that theyre ALOT different to house parties where i really started experiencing succes with my game. Firstly all the chicks in the place are extremely stand-off-ish, and ive only just gotten over this fact thanks to david d and realised that its not just me that cops the whole (should i talk to him ?) look. Its natural for them to be weary and i get it BUT how can i open and show them who i am when the music is so loud i cant even hear myself ?? Some of my mates just like going up behind chicks and start dancing with them. Not only do i find this weird and creepy myself, I know its a golden rule of the game to never approach a woman from behind. But if this is the case how can i open and have a convo with a woman when its so loud ! please help guys, planning on goin out again in a couple of days and need to get this one sorted.

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I had the same problem so I started going to places that are more quiet. I love dancing but I have nights where I dance, nights where I drink, and night where I PU. I know that is no help at all but I never found a good answer to your riddle. I'll be checking in on this to see if someone else has the answer.

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lol thanks jits yea ideally id like to be doing all of these in the one venue wenever i want, so hopefully someone will have an answer.

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be louder than the music you must come off as a high value guy and you will be heard and after the opener lock body rock stack lock-in and motion for her to lean in and she will because it will seem natural since its so loud

spears i get wat u mean but i dont wanna come off as to desperate to get her attention, kinda like wen annoying small people over compensate for there height by talking really loud to get ur attention (no disrespect to anyone that considers themself "short") just dont want her to think im another random fighting to get her to talk to me

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When you go to clubs the most important thing is to have FUN!

Girls will notice this!

In a Loud club always use small chit chat, don't start big conversations.

So try to be direct most of the time.

A nice opener i always use on the dance floor is:

PUA: Hey you are a great dancer, where did you learned that?

HB: Bla bla bla ( most of the time they say they are just doing things)

PUA: Cool! But now you got to dance with me!

Most of the time when i use that opener i tell them to lets go to the bar after a bit dancing to have some chit chat, like whats ya name, where you from, do you come here often, ( avoid the interview style a bit) a then mostly a kiss close or back to dancing.

Hope it helps.

As for opening, midgame and closing, dont open on a d floor or grind up on her, thats how you may get a dance and nothing else as your awkward self trys to follow her after she gets off of you the second the songs over and you chase her hahahha... so weak. open on the side or at the bar waiting for a drink, or some place more quiet. just Open with something clever, go to the side of a girl lean over and say something simple, make fun of someone. make fun of some super ghetto fat girl dancing (theres usually one) and girls love talking shit about other girls, so she'll love you for it if your comments funny. id say my opener but i dont like SPAM my stuff to people, ill give an ok one though, i may say "what would you do if you found out she was your long lost sister? etc.. you can figure the rest out.

Okay, now youve opened and talked to her for about 3 minutes, thats all you need. (embrace the loud music, you DONT HAVE TO TALK ))) once your on the dance floor. also dont comment on the loudness of the music to the girl, big turnoff. TELL not ask her to come dance with you.

Now your dancing. the dance floor is for dancing and STRICTLY make fun of the girl your dancing with time, and maybe make out time. i always say, "you dance like my grandma", in her ear regardless of whether shes a professional dancer or just some girl. and dont approach girls on the dance floor unless your moves are great and can dance without grinding. I am white so unless her ass is on my dick im getting out of there because she will get turned off right away when she sees my hands flopping around. also YOUUUUUUU tell HER when to stop dancing, say "lets get a drink" and chat her up. bring her back and forth. or say, you should buy me a drink for that sad display of dancing with a smile, then as she says YOUR A DICK then laughs as she gets horny thinking of you, you say what do you want (drink wise) buy it for her. of COURSE make fun of whatever stupid drink she gets, and get the same while saying ewww when you taste it, then say no its actually really good, just dont tell my friends. feel free to tell a story about your friends and yourself and how you should meet them. A lot of time has passed, WHERE ARE HER FRIENDS!????? you better know and find out, and instead of them dragging her away from you, you say i want to meet your friends. charm them, get your friends laid, bring ALL of them back to your place and enjoy the fuckfest. the end.

hope you enjoyed my story and yes it really is that simple.

I've got two cents worth that may be of value in a loud club...

if you push the little bit of skin before their ear into the ear hole they will be able to hear a whole lot better...

you can try it on yourself

there are a few things with this

you can easily gauge her resonsiveness to you touching her

you can make yourself heard...

you just showed her a cool clubbing trick...

try it on yourself first and know you you are doing or trying to do first so you dont look like a fucktard sticking your finger in her ear...

nice tactics guys, i will be adding alot of that to my game

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To ANON78910:

HAHA quality! I have something similar in my arsenal, but dude, you just filled in blanks for me Thumbs Up!!

Anon thanks heaps, the mapping out really helps get the club game in perspective will definately help make up the skeleton of my game and just helps reinforce cocky funny. And yea glad u said no long openers on the d floor, because subconsciously i never thought it would go well tryin to talk to a chick while she was in the middle of dancing and not wanting to focus on anything else... glad thats not just me. AND thank god u agree with the awkward grind lol.

Smashy I really like that idea and will definately try to incorporate that into my game, could be useful during attraction phase.

Amadieus i especially like the point on being direct. My main problem was i was using opinion openers in reasonably loud parts of the club, which just take to long and i guess if ur in a club people want to meet other people and you might aswell get to the point if its not quiet enough to get a long response.

Going out sunday night (yes i know but only night i got off work this weekend) so will try it then and hopefully will able to let u all know how it goes , thanks guys

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Loud clubs doesn't stop you from getting physical. Truth be told guys, verbal game doesn't really matter a whole lot. Seriously, its like 5-10% of it at most. Make the vibe sexual and physically escalate.

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Man, this is pretty true. My speaking is really my strong point. Truth be told physical escalation is where I am the most quirky. I think a lot of that has to do with my lingering insecurities about my height. I have been solely working on inner game for that insecurity and physically escalating for about 2 weeks now. Sheesh, it's sucks when you get caught on one little thing for a long time.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.