So my friend has serious approach anxiety.

He's a logical guy though, so I think giving him a set pattern to follow would help him greatly. Probably a lot of the users on the forum here to.

Unfortunately I don't know what to suggest. If we can devise a decent routine for newbies to use and 'see what happens' so they can grow their confidence it could be good.

What we need is:

1) The opener
2) How to stack on top of it & what to stack
3) What else to stack?
4) Isolation
5) Comfort building
6) Kino Escaltion
7) Some sort of close

If we can compile these ideas but simplify it to create one routine that someone can literally recreate and say the scripted words (obviously desired effect will change depending on body language, how naturally they're saying it etc) then I think it will be a great use for the forum.

Thoughts guys?

The problem with anxiety is it makes it impossible to stick to some sort of plan. When you are thinking about what to say and what to do next, you get super nervous. Unfortunately, the only thing that will ever help ANY guy here is many, many attempts followed by almost as much failure.

I understand this, but I think that having some sort of game plan is much, much better than having no game plan and ending up stuttering few some AFC lines..?

A Number one way to kill Your AA is to be able to be relaxed when you go in to go game. A Game plan is exellent but there are always things that could happen that could set it off axis, So long as you go your game plan in you mind some where while you are doing something it will be more successful. So what you should do is before you go to your target HB you should run through some affirmations to get yourself in the state and dont over think the next thing you are going to say. Most of the time you will ruin the opportunity that is present, so just go with the flow of the conversation ask rooting questions to keep the convo going and there you go!

P.s. if you run out of things to say dont worry about it, it happens some times.

Cheers

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This is a great question but its one ive never found an answer to. I get anxiety and i dont approach enough but i can go up to a chick and say hi and then say some comment and thats as far as i can make it, guess its just having a point to talking to her and then making small talk at first when you got anxiety or starting out.

The whole PUA, routines, lines, etc, is just a path to take to find out that none of it really equates to a solution to meeting women, or whatever your goal is. At the end of the road of all of these techniques, you come to a realization that the only true method is using your own personality, having lots of FUN, and finding women YOU want to meet.

Is having a game plan, a set routine of lines, better than nothing? No. The successful individual, who is taught natural pickup will always dominate the one who uses a gameplan. And how do you become this successful individual? By reading in between the lines, and by enormous amounts of practice. When someone gives you a line or an opener or a routine or a technique, understand what that specific idea is actually doing.

ie: your buddy or some internet post tells you to do the following
1) open with something funny
2) start building rapport
3) isolate
4) kino
5) close

You think that's gonna work? A woman is a human being with emotions, not a logical machine that needs specific interactions from an instruction booklet to operate. But there is still MUCH value from these things, by again, reading in between the lines.

What does opening with something funny do? Get's her laughing, which will instantly open up anyone and make them comfortable. What does rapport do? Builds comfort. What does isolation do? Gives you a chance to have her on her own and say and do things you can't necessarily do in front of her friends. What's kino? Separating yourself from a friend and a romantic interest... etc. And do you know what the one word that summarizes all of this is? It's simply called Flirting.

But you won't be somehow able to follow this gameplan every time, if not ever. You need to play it by ear. You need to understand the general concept so that you always understand what's going on and can improvise from there. It's the difference between stand up comedy and improv. I guarantee you the guy who can do improv even remotely well is much more naturally funny than the standup who has a routine he must follow.

Routines are the easy mans way out, and 9/10 times they don't go to plan. Guys come on this site looking for the next opener or routine they can use. How can you ever be ultimately successful if you're just using someone else's words?


Read in between the lines, practice a lot, fail even more, and in the long run you will reach a point of incredible success. This is one of the hardest things in life to master if you are not a natural. As soon as you accept that it is fucking hard to learn how to flirt from a textbook, the sooner you will realize you need to go put yourself out there and PRACTICE.

Your friends a logical guy, he thinks he knows alot so he has a massive fucking ego even if he doesnt always show it.. . This means he will make more excuses not to approach, and probably wont force himself to do it. Because on the inside he is an asshole and a pussy.

thats ok, download Demonic Confidence. Its an approach course that will probs change his life forever. Best thing out there tbh